Kernel Panics due to TenFourFox?

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  1. ptdebate, Jul 15, 2014
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    ptdebate macrumors 6502

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    Hi everyone,

    I'm running 10.4.11 on my TiBook 1GHz with 1GB ram from OWC.

    The computer has 38 charge cycles on the original battery. That should give you some idea of how little use the computer has seen.

    I've experienced recurring kernel panics that look like this while using TenFourFox:

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    The app also crashes like crazy. Safari 4 may be slow and CPU-intensive, but since going TenFourFox-free I've also been crash free. I ran an extensive Apple Hardware test which reported everything OK. Has anyone else experienced kernel panics relating to TenFourFox? Is this normal? I thought only kernel extensions or memory issues could cause them.

    Thanks!
     
  2. MrPilot macrumors 6502

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    Running stock safari is nuts... get leopard for webkit which an improved safari.
    Sorry about the crashes, no idea what it could be since I don't use TFF much at all
     
  3. ptdebate thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I may yet get Leopard. Stock Safari on 10.4.11, however, was able to load some pretty intense web pages, albeit very slowly and resource-intensively. As a test page I used Kotaku, which has multiple gifs on page and lots of pop-up video ads. With three other tabs open Safari handled it like a champ. I force-closed the browser after about 2 minutes though because the 'book was getting too hot for comfort.

    I don't really use my 'book for that kind of webpages, considering that I really just use it for writing and uploading to WordPress, which Safari seems to be okay with. The kernel panics mentioned above are a nagging source of concern, however. Since I just installed new RAM, that would seem like a likely culprit. Apple hardware check says everything is okay, though... :confused:
     
  4. Intell macrumors P6

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    It is unlikely to be TenFourFox. What do the kernel panic logs say?
     
  5. ptdebate thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Latest kernel panic log

    I'm not sure how to read these, but here is my latest one. Any advice would be greatly appreciated:


    Mon Jul 14 19:35:02 2014


    Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x00000000000001C8 PC=0x00000000004F17D4
    Latest crash info for cpu 0:
    Exception state (sv=0x2D8B1500)
    PC=0x004F17D4; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x000001C8; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x004F17F4; R1=0x1753B970; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
    Backtrace:
    0x004F17F4 0x004EFCF4 0x0050209C 0x007FBC74 0x004E5020 0x004E6D64
    0x007651A8 0x00764DFC 0x00765C0C 0x0003CA1C 0x000A9714
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.driver.AppleADBMouse(2.1.0f3)@0x7f9000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOADBFamily(8.0.0)@0x4e3000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.4.13)@0x4ea000
    com.apple.driver.ApplePMU(2.3.4d1)@0x763000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.4.13)@0x4ea000
    com.apple.iokit.IOADBFamily(8.0.0)@0x4e3000
    com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.4.13)@0x4ea000
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x2D8B1500)
    previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
    Exception state (sv=0x2D6B4C80)
    PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)

    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC
    panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access
    Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
    Backtrace:
    0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x000A8204 0x000ABB80
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x2D8B1500)
    PC=0x004F17D4; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x000001C8; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x004F17F4; R1=0x1753B970; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
    Backtrace:
    0x004F17F4 0x004EFCF4 0x0050209C 0x007FBC74 0x004E5020 0x004E6D64
    0x007651A8 0x00764DFC 0x00765C0C 0x0003CA1C 0x000A9714
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.driver.AppleADBMouse(2.1.0f3)@0x7f9000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOADBFamily(8.0.0)@0x4e3000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.4.13)@0x4ea000
    com.apple.driver.ApplePMU(2.3.4d1)@0x763000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.4.13)@0x4ea000
    com.apple.iokit.IOADBFamily(8.0.0)@0x4e3000
    com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamilp
    *********
     
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    What should I do about it? The trackpad appears to be working fine...

    Could it be a Tiger software problem? I obtained the retail copy by...dubious means...
     
  8. Intell macrumors P6

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    It may be a software problem, but the thing that is causing the panic is related to something that only the trackpad uses.
     
  9. ptdebate thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Thanks Intell! I guess it could be worse...If it is the trackpad, I'll probably just keep the thing off and use a mouse. At least it's not the RAM I just purchased...
     
  10. Intelligent macrumors 6502a

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    Off-topic but how is 38 charges much? I have a computer thats not even a year old and it has 78 charges.
     
  11. Zotaccian macrumors 6502a

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    Well I think he just means that it has not been used that much...and still problems.
     
  12. MrPilot macrumors 6502

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    oh my bad, how about getting webkit for tiger?

    I'm on it right now...
     
  13. ptdebate thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Right, I meant that it hadn't been used very much. 38 charges is very little for 12 years! ;)

    I'm gonna edit the original post to make that wording clearer.

    Will do, sir! I didn't know there were any good TFF alternatives for Tiger. Can you link me to it? Thanks!
     
  14. MrPilot macrumors 6502

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    http://tenfourkit.googlecode.com/files/WebKit-533.21.1-Tiger.dmg
     
  15. 128keaton macrumors 68020

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    Try backing up essential stuff, then reinstall. Make sure you haven't installed the app that enables faux scrolling gestures.
     
  16. ptdebate thread starter macrumors 6502

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    So everyone,

    I determined that my kernal panics were due to the memory from OWC by doing trial-and-error tests. I did an RMA and guess what? THE NEW RAM IS CAUSING PANICS TOO! :mad:

    Could there be a deeper issue I'm not noticing? I've use my PBG4 very extensively in the interim, so I would have definitely taken note if a kernel panic had occurred before the replacement RAM arrived. Could it just be that I received faulty RAM twice in a row?

    I'm thinking about just reverting back to OS 9.2.2 for the time being. I've never had any issues in that OS, so maybe this is on the software level (I am using bootleg copies of OSX Tiger and Leopard, after all). Just to reiterate, though, the kernel panics only occur with the OWC memory installed. Thoughts?
     
  17. weckart macrumors 68040

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    Avoid OWC memory, perhaps? Particularly as your TiBook does not seem to think much of it.

    Just get some used Hynix sodimms. That seems to be Apple's go-to brand more than most.
     

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