Kernel Panics due to TenFourFox?

[ptdebate]

Hi everyone,

I'm running 10.4.11 on my TiBook 1GHz with 1GB ram from OWC.

The computer has 38 charge cycles on the original battery. That should give you some idea of how little use the computer has seen.

I've experienced recurring kernel panics that look like this while using TenFourFox:

The app also crashes like crazy. Safari 4 may be slow and CPU-intensive, but since going TenFourFox-free I've also been crash free. I ran an extensive Apple Hardware test which reported everything OK. Has anyone else experienced kernel panics relating to TenFourFox? Is this normal? I thought only kernel extensions or memory issues could cause them.

Thanks!

 

[MrPilot]

Running stock safari is nuts... get leopard for webkit which an improved safari.
Sorry about the crashes, no idea what it could be since I don't use TFF much at all

 

[ptdebate]

Running stock safari is nuts... get leopard for webkit which an improved safari.
Sorry about the crashes, no idea what it could be since I don't use TFF much at all

I may yet get Leopard. Stock Safari on 10.4.11, however, was able to load some pretty intense web pages, albeit very slowly and resource-intensively. As a test page I used Kotaku, which has multiple gifs on page and lots of pop-up video ads. With three other tabs open Safari handled it like a champ. I force-closed the browser after about 2 minutes though because the 'book was getting too hot for comfort.

I don't really use my 'book for that kind of webpages, considering that I really just use it for writing and uploading to WordPress, which Safari seems to be okay with. The kernel panics mentioned above are a nagging source of concern, however. Since I just installed new RAM, that would seem like a likely culprit. Apple hardware check says everything is okay, though...

 

[Intell]

It is unlikely to be TenFourFox. What do the kernel panic logs say?

 

[ptdebate]

Latest kernel panic log

It is unlikely to be TenFourFox. What do the kernel panic logs say?

I'm not sure how to read these, but here is my latest one. Any advice would be greatly appreciated:


Mon Jul 14 19:35:02 2014


Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x00000000000001C8 PC=0x00000000004F17D4
Latest crash info for cpu 0:
Exception state (sv=0x2D8B1500)
PC=0x004F17D4; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x000001C8; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x004F17F4; R1=0x1753B970; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x004F17F4 0x004EFCF4 0x0050209C 0x007FBC74 0x004E5020 0x004E6D64
0x007651A8 0x00764DFC 0x00765C0C 0x0003CA1C 0x000A9714
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AppleADBMouse(2.1.0f3)@0x7f9000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOADBFamily(8.0.0)@0x4e3000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.4.13)@0x4ea000
com.apple.driver.ApplePMU(2.3.4d1)@0x763000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.4.13)@0x4ea000
com.apple.iokit.IOADBFamily(8.0.0)@0x4e3000
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.4.13)@0x4ea000
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x2D8B1500)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x2D6B4C80)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x000A8204 0x000ABB80
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x2D8B1500)
PC=0x004F17D4; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x000001C8; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x004F17F4; R1=0x1753B970; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x004F17F4 0x004EFCF4 0x0050209C 0x007FBC74 0x004E5020 0x004E6D64
0x007651A8 0x00764DFC 0x00765C0C 0x0003CA1C 0x000A9714
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AppleADBMouse(2.1.0f3)@0x7f9000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOADBFamily(8.0.0)@0x4e3000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.4.13)@0x4ea000
com.apple.driver.ApplePMU(2.3.4d1)@0x763000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.4.13)@0x4ea000
com.apple.iokit.IOADBFamily(8.0.0)@0x4e3000
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamilp
*********

 

[Intell]

It appears to be your trackpad.

 

[ptdebate]

It appears to be your trackpad.

What should I do about it? The trackpad appears to be working fine...

Could it be a Tiger software problem? I obtained the retail copy by...dubious means...

 

[Intell]

It may be a software problem, but the thing that is causing the panic is related to something that only the trackpad uses.

 

[ptdebate]

It may be a software problem, but the thing that is causing the panic is related to something that only the trackpad uses.

Thanks Intell! I guess it could be worse...If it is the trackpad, I'll probably just keep the thing off and use a mouse. At least it's not the RAM I just purchased...

 

[Intelligent]

Off-topic but how is 38 charges much? I have a computer thats not even a year old and it has 78 charges.

 

[Zotaccian]

Well I think he just means that it has not been used that much...and still problems.

 

[MrPilot]

I may yet get Leopard. Stock Safari on 10.4.11,

oh my bad, how about getting webkit for tiger?

I'm on it right now...

 

[ptdebate]

Well I think he just means that it has not been used that much...and still problems.

Right, I meant that it hadn't been used very much. 38 charges is very little for 12 years!

I'm gonna edit the original post to make that wording clearer.

oh my bad, how about getting webkit for tiger?

I'm on it right now...

Will do, sir! I didn't know there were any good TFF alternatives for Tiger. Can you link me to it? Thanks!

 

[MrPilot]

Right, I meant that it hadn't been used very much. 38 charges is very little for 12 years!

I'm gonna edit the original post to make that wording clearer.



Will do, sir! I didn't know there were any good TFF alternatives for Tiger. Can you link me to it? Thanks!

http://tenfourkit.googlecode.com/files/WebKit-533.21.1-Tiger.dmg

 

[128keaton]

Try backing up essential stuff, then reinstall. Make sure you haven't installed the app that enables faux scrolling gestures.

 

[ptdebate]

So everyone,

I determined that my kernal panics were due to the memory from OWC by doing trial-and-error tests. I did an RMA and guess what? THE NEW RAM IS CAUSING PANICS TOO!

Could there be a deeper issue I'm not noticing? I've use my PBG4 very extensively in the interim, so I would have definitely taken note if a kernel panic had occurred before the replacement RAM arrived. Could it just be that I received faulty RAM twice in a row?

I'm thinking about just reverting back to OS 9.2.2 for the time being. I've never had any issues in that OS, so maybe this is on the software level (I am using bootleg copies of OSX Tiger and Leopard, after all). Just to reiterate, though, the kernel panics only occur with the OWC memory installed. Thoughts?

 

[weckart]

Avoid OWC memory, perhaps? Particularly as your TiBook does not seem to think much of it.

Just get some used Hynix sodimms. That seems to be Apple's go-to brand more than most.