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ThinkSecret adds to its information on Apple's upcomming iWork '07 that the forthcoming revision of Keynote will entail "a myriad of subtle refinements more than any particularly notable new feature." Subtle refinements include some animated themes (with more theme resolutions reaching 1920x1080), new text transitions, a preference saving feature, the ability to export to iPod, and iWeb support.

With three versions under its belt already, Keynote is already largely a reflection of what Apple envisioned when it first embarked on creating a more Mac-like competitor to Microsoft's PowerPoint.

ThinkSecret has recently been rounding the corners of Apple's expected iWork '07 suite, detailing Pages 3 as well as a new consumer-oriented spreadsheet application dubbed Charts.
 

jonharris200

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Keynote is already superb. But it would be even better if you could import to QuickTime and Flash (.swf) while keeping the transitions and a low file size. That would be a dream for placing simple animations in web pages.

Edit: Sorry, that should have said 'export' not 'import'.
 

Eidorian

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jonharris200 said:
Keynote is already superb. But it would be even better if you could import to QuickTime and Flash (.swf) while keeping the transitions and a low file size. That would be a dream for placing simple animations in web pages.
You could always try Visual Hub
 

mox358

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iWork 07 does sound like its shaping up to be a very competent suite. I would love to ditch MS Office, but most of my word processing needs have to eventually end up in Word format. Unfortunately thus far every time I've used another program and "Exported As Word" I've been burned. Maybe '07 will be different. But thats my hope.

Keynote has been amazing since version 2 for me. If I'm giving a presentation that allows me to use my own hardware Keynote is all I use. However, if I have to use on-site hardware its almost always required to be PowerPoint. I agree with the TS article though... they've already whipped PP so badly what else can they add to it? A "Keynote Viewer" for when you need to display a Keynote but don't have it installed on the host machine? That would be my top wish... and maybe a little better performance...
 

Cubert

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I'm eagerly awaiting the animated themes. There are quite a few very good 3rd party Keynote theme makers that put Apple's themes to shame. Although, Apple's Keynote themes put Microsloth's PowerPoint themes to shame.
 

Eraserhead

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mox358 said:
Unfortunately thus far every time I've used another program and "Exported As Word" I've been burned. Maybe '07 will be different. But thats my hope.

I think it will allow export to OpenXML (the new Office file format) so it should be totally compatible with Office (as long as they have downloaded the OpenXML plugin for Office 2000 or later.)
 

jephrey

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the ability to export to iPod

Does that just sound more important than it is? I'd imagine that you could play the presentation from your iPod, all you'd need is the cable to hook it to a TV/Projector. That would be awesome.

Jephrey
 

irbdavid

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The fact that iWork only costs £35 for students makes it ideal. I had some trouble importing some .docs into Pages, and same with .ppts, but no more than you get using OpenOffice.

I just bought a macbook, a big factor in which was to use keynote at presentations/lectures. The HD part may be overkill though - how many decently sized projecters display at anything above 1024x768 these days?

Finally, great accompaniment to iWork: latexit Check it out if you enter a lot of equations into your presentations.
 

~Shard~

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michaeldmartin said:

You have the wrong thread. This is the Keyonte thread, you want the Charts thread. :p :cool:

Great news. I agree that nothing groundbreaking needs to be done for Keynote - it's a solid app already. Further refinements is great though, and helps make iWork a continually improving suite. One must wonder if Apple's product roadmap and timeline for iWork coincides with the final release of Office for Mac in the next year or so. Although they don't want to be a direct competitor to MS right now, once that last version of Office is developed, Apple might be positioning iWork to be a very powerful suite indeed. :cool:
 

Daringescape

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Keynote Viewer?

A keynote Viewer for Windows and Mac would be incredible!

Whenever I do a presentation for a client in Keynote, the response is almost always - "I didnt know that powerpoint could look that great" and my response is "it cant, this a Macintosh program." That always brings me a good feeling.
 

supremedesigner

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This is good news! You have the ability to export it to iPod and then plug it to the projector or TV or whatever to do the presentation even though you don't want to bring your mac (ofc you would!). I seriously can not wait for this! I am almost ready to ditch Office 2004.
 

steve_hill4

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I still can't see iWork being a direct replacement for Office, for those with particular needs. For Mac users with no specific requirements beyond school/college/university work and just general needs for their job and personal life, iWork is ideal. I would like to see the standard £55 to rise to about £75 though and to add in a lot of new features and programs, student costs staying at about 50% full price.

They've still got 4 and a half years to come up with something to truly rival Office, or they risk losing Office for Mac with no true replacement or signing more deals with Microsoft where they could even add in the terms that Apple develops no Office suite of their own.
 

interlard

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Keynote Player! Genius!!

I regularly use Keynote to create visuals that I can use in PowerPoint slides. For example I create a decent-looking 3D pie chart, then export it to PowerPoint, steal the pie chart graphic and use it in company PowerPoint slides.

So a free Keynote Player for Mac & Windows would be all Apple needs to get Keynote & Macs into the non-Mac buiness mainstream.

(BTW, when the "I'm a PC" guy says he's good at "spreadsheets and timesheets and pie charts" I have to laugh. He's crap.)
 

Yvan256

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interlard said:
I regularly use Keynote to create visuals that I can use in PowerPoint slides. For example I create a decent-looking 3D pie chart, then export it to PowerPoint, steal the pie chart graphic and use it in company PowerPoint slides.

So a free Keynote Player for Mac & Windows would be all Apple needs to get Keynote & Macs into the non-Mac buiness mainstream.

(BTW, when the "I'm a PC" guy says he's good at "spreadsheets and timesheets and pie charts" I have to laugh. He's crap.)

You don't really need a "Keynote Player". All you need to do is create your presentation in Keynote and then simply export to the "QuickTime presentation" file format and then use QuickTime Player on the PC. You'll keep all your transitions, etc. and keep control on the slides (press a key/button to "play" to the next slide).
 

neutrino23

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irbdavid said:
The fact that iWork only costs £35 for students makes it ideal. I had some trouble importing some .docs into Pages, and same with .ppts, but no more than you get using OpenOffice.

I just bought a macbook, a big factor in which was to use keynote at presentations/lectures. The HD part may be overkill though - how many decently sized projecters display at anything above 1024x768 these days?

Finally, great accompaniment to iWork: latexit Check it out if you enter a lot of equations into your presentations.

I have had great success importing ppt files into Keynote. Perhaps because my colleagues only create very simple slides. Even better, the slides I export to ppt have been just fine, minus the cool transitions.

I've noticed in the past year or so that projectors are getting much better. Many companies I visit have projectors capable of up to HD resolution. I don't think they actually display that clearly but they report that resolution option in OS X.

I sometimes need to use equations. For this purpose I use my old copy of Appleworks. Many people don't know it but Appleworks has an equation editor. I don't use it often enough to judge its ease of use but it does make nice looking equations.
 

Kelson

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Path Based Animation

I really want to like Keynote. However, I need it to provide path based animation. I need parts of the presentation to move from one x/y location to another. I use presentations for technical training and need more flexibility in animation.

Until they add that, I'm stuck w/ Powerpoint.

- Kelson
 

bigandy

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JosiahPB said:
I doubt Keynote will ever be presented for free....that would be nice though!
eh? no, they mean a programme that just lets you view keynote stuff, like the powerpoint viewer MS does... that's free. and it's useful for people not willing to buy powerpoint just to view the files.

i agree that it would be a great thing to have a Win/Mac viewer for Keynote presentations.
 

xPismo

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JosiahPB said:
I doubt Keynote will ever be presented for free....that would be nice though!

A free viewer would be a good idea though. I cant live without my Keynote - the worst part is when Teachers ask why program I use and I tell them, they still wont quit using PP.

I wonder why they even ask if they wont switch.
 

mozmac

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My mom is still using AppleWorks 6. She's one of those people who has no need to share her documents with anyone else, so she could etch them into a stone tablet for all she cares. However, once she learns a program, getting her to switch takes some effort. I tried to get her to go to Word, but she discovered what millions, nay I say billions, have already discovered. Word freakin' drives splinters up my spine! It tries to be WAY too helpful. So, she stuck with AppleWorks.

I've been telling her about iWork; we even purchased the first version. However, I didn't try to force it on her cause I know the program will only get better. Can't wait for it to development into more of a suite so I can finally get her off the barely-native OSX AppleWorks.
 
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