And that’s pretty much the only reason to keep Macs around these days. And the MBA doesn’t really factor into this equation.
When you look at Apple’s grand theory of design, it’s not exactly clear where the MacBook Air even fits in at this point.
Which is why I say - drop the MacBook, MacBook Air and Mac mini. Keep the MacBook Pro (13” and 15”) and iMac (4K, 5k and Pro). Maybe release a Mac Pro for the really edge cases even the iMac Pro cannot handle. Continue to work on making the iPad the general-purpose computer for the masses.
Watch. It will launch with an ARM cpu.
Why is Apple keeping the Air around? It's simple: marketing.
When the Air launched, it was pretty innovative: SSD, lightweight, long battery. There was nothing like it.
Now that the MacBook has taken on many of these qualities, plus the Retina screen, it makes the Air superfluous really except for a slightly bigger screen.
But that's the point. If you want the cheapest laptop Apple offers, you get an Air or a MacBook. However, compared to the MacBook Pro, it makes the regular MacBook look like a pretty mediocre option. (The designated decoy.)
It's also the reason why you can only get a Pro in 13 inch. If you want a 13 inch screen, the Pro is the best option. It's the same thing when Apple lets you double the capacity of an iPhone for just $100 more.
Take the Air, mix it with the MacBook and you’d have an amazing machine.]
Just replace the usb a with usb c, throw in an adapter, keep the MagSafe, SD card, and add a Retina display. Keep the keyboard!!!
Pro should be 3 MagSafe/usb c, 8K hdmi, SD card, and and adapter, without the touch bar (or it integrated in the space bar and allow a minimal amount of controls). The keyboard from the 2015 needs to return.
FaceTime needs to support multi user, with free and paid tiers. Paid tiers would get access to higher resolution streams and more support for increased number of users.
The Apple Magic Mouse III should actually be egernomic with a wireless charging base.
Ugh sorry starting to do Apple’s job, I’m gonna shut up.
It took me a while, but I think you mean escape key, right?
My guess is the 13" MacBook Pro models, including hopefully the non-Touch Bar model, will get this:
Core i5-8350U: Quad-core, 1.7 GHz, with 3.6 GHz Turbo (Kaby Lake Refresh - 8th generation)
Core i7-8650U: Quad-core, 1.9 GHz, with 4.2 GHz Turbo (Kaby Lake Refresh - 8th generation)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake#List_of_Kaby_Lake_R_processors_(low/medium_power)
It should be noted though that no Kaby Lake Refresh Y series CPUs exist (yet) for a 12" MacBook update in 2018. Some claim Cannon Lake Y could make an appearance, but others don't believe that, and that Intel and Apple will skip straight to Icy Lake Y quad-core, but not until 2019.
Meanwhile, the question is if they'd actually update the MacBook Air to Skylake. If they do, maybe it'd be something like Skylake i5-6260U and i7-6360U. This would actually keep costs down while still upgrading the speed slightly, and adding partial hardware HEVC decode support. Or else they could just keep the CPUs as Broadwell yet again.
As has been pointed out several times in this thread, the current Kaby Lake Y in the MacBook is roughly the same speed as Broadwell U in the MacBook Air.
Core m3-7Y32 and Core i5-7Y54 are roughly in the same ballpark as Core i5-5350U.
Core i7-7Y75 is roughly in the same ballpark as Core i7-5650U.
In Geekbench 4.2, the 2017 Y series in the MacBook actually easily beats the 2015 U series in the MacBook Air.
In Cinebench R15, the 2015 U series in the MacBook Air beats the 2017 Y series in the MacBook, but the scores are within about 6%.
Besides this is Tim Cooks Apple nobody should really expect ruthless culling of older devices, there are still three year old iPhones on sale and they even revived the iPhone 5 design and released a marginally updated version of the iPad Air to occupy the lower end price point. All the rumours suggest its an approach that is set to continue.
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Still plenty of time between June and Sept for that.
I don’t like this strategy at all. They are supposed to be a premium product company. It makes the product line messy and confusing. I’ve said it before on here: there should be 3 iPhones made each year - iPhone mini (4 inch phone), iPhone (at 4.7 or slightly bigger), and the iPhone plus (at 5.5 or bigger). Stop selling the older models. iPads should be the same. They do it with their laptops & Watch, why not do it for everything else?
I also think they should remove the Air from the lineup and reduce the price of the MacBook - it makes the most sense. I predicted this last year to happen this year, actually too.
The problem with Windows ARM is when emulating x86, the performance takes a 50% hit.
There’s a huge amount of hand tuning of code to make applications run well on x86. It doesn’t make sense to switch uarch unless there’s a big performance gain.
Apple adding mouse support for iOS? Never will happen. The iPad being a prime example of why Apple doesn’t believe in that theory at all. That’s how this Company operates.
In its current form factor, with the current processors being used, there are likely not enough PCI lanes to support Thunderbolt 3.
Considering the age of The CPUs inside the MacBook Air I wouldn’t be surprised wirh it being discountinued or uprgarded to a recent CPU.
I think the "air" term has lost its significance.I, for one, think that that "Air" name is very valuable, but that the regular MacBook encroached way too much on its territory, now it's lost its identity. I love my 2013 Air and have held out replacing it because there's really nothing else on the market (from Apple) worthy of being its replacement. Let's hope that Apple wises up and releases a new, unique Air. ARM-based would be awesome!
I think that as Apple continues to grow (and seek growth), it is inevitable that they have to start selling products at all price points in order to target as many consumers as possible. Continuing to sell older iPhones is one way to lower the price without cheapening your brand. If people see you with an iPhone 5c, the impression is that you bought a cheaper iPhone to save a few bucks. Buy an older iPhone, and people won't know if you just bought it this year at a discounted price, or if you had purchased it the previous year at full price.I don’t like this strategy at all. They are supposed to be a premium product company. It makes the product line messy and confusing. I’ve said it before on here: there should be 3 iPhones made each year - iPhone mini (4 inch phone), iPhone (at 4.7 or slightly bigger), and the iPhone plus (at 5.5 or bigger). Stop selling the older models. iPads should be the same. They do it with their laptops & Watch, why not do it for everything else?
That said, I do feel the Macbook gives up way too much in the name of portability. I could theoretically live with one port, and I have seen the videos of how it can edit 4k footage on final cut pro, but I am not sure I want to go down this self-imposed rabbit hole.
That's not true: Microsoft Windows 10 runs x86 code on ARM at "near native speed". They are good at this stuff. The cpu and driver code are native to ARM.
https://www.extremetech.com/computi...m-devices-will-run-x86-code-near-native-speed
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Like many on this thread I think that what is really going to happen is:
- The Air goes
- The MacBook takes a massive price cut
- This is done by using a A11X chip and their new cross platform framework (which is revealed to be cross processor, too).
The timing for this will be interesting:
- Will it be announced 'early out the gate' in June at WWDC with the next version of MacOS released early for just this machine? I.e. to help incentivise developers ('we expect the new MacBook to be very popular').
- Or will it appear later this year when (presumably) the next version of macOS is fully read. Even then I suspect that this machine might get it quite a way ahead of other machines.
The apple Watch will be ARM?
just sold my maxed out 11 inch 2012 MBA. wasn't cutting it.
Considering the age of The CPUs inside the MacBook Air I wouldn’t be surprised wirh it being discountinued or uprgarded to a recent CPU.
Architecture transitions don’t happen overnight. MacBook Air (and Mac mini) are slower, smaller computers typically used for light consumer-oriented tasks. Think browsing and photo organization and other things mainly handled by Apple’s own apps, plus some light third-party stuff easily emulated.
Makes those systems the perfect place to signal to larger devs that a re-compile is on the horizon.