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Kid puts a big pocket knife against my stomach in school...
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balamw said:You are. Original poster.
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ahaha..thanks..
I just cant belive people in this world would do such a thing
Jericho2550 said:
Thats easy - go to the cops. It takes someone with a sick mind to put a knife to someones stomach.
Something happened the headmaster of my old school. His brother was killed when his mate was joking around holding a knife to his body at school one day. Some other kids knocked into him and the knife ended up in his neck. He died. Which is why you don't piss around with knives.
Report him to the police. Simple as that. You got him expelled and has already shown he's not afraid to use knives.
Even the best schools have occasional incidents like what you encountered, oldnavy1918.
You and your friends did the only thing you could sensibly do. If somebody threatened you and you did nothing, they'd know they could do it again and again, and probably would.
I doubt you are the only person this guy threatened or purposely scared with a knife, so you not only did what you needed to do for yourself, you did everyone else a favor too.
If he returns to school after a suspension, you might reasonably be worried that the kid would be targeting you and your friends again, but I think it's more likely that the kid would stay completely away from you, because he now knows 100% that you'll turn him in if he makes further trouble.
You and your friends did the only thing you could sensibly do. If somebody threatened you and you did nothing, they'd know they could do it again and again, and probably would.
I doubt you are the only person this guy threatened or purposely scared with a knife, so you not only did what you needed to do for yourself, you did everyone else a favor too.
If he returns to school after a suspension, you might reasonably be worried that the kid would be targeting you and your friends again, but I think it's more likely that the kid would stay completely away from you, because he now knows 100% that you'll turn him in if he makes further trouble.
If some dumbass kid pulled a knife on me, I'd pop him in the head. Self defence, bitch.
My justification: Stranger pulls a knife, I don't know what his intent is. As far as I can tell he means me harm. I have to do something to deter, or illiminate that threat.
File a police report right now. Get this idiot out of your school and into juvy.
My justification: Stranger pulls a knife, I don't know what his intent is. As far as I can tell he means me harm. I have to do something to deter, or illiminate that threat.
File a police report right now. Get this idiot out of your school and into juvy.
Because it hasnt been said enough already, I must say you handled the situation perfectly, and i admire you for that.
It also helps to have some really good friends around you. Keep the friends that stood by you and helped you tell an adult.
Just hope you dont end up going to the same High School.
Also if someone ever comes at you with the intent to hurt you, if you are a REALLY fast runner and he's some fat slob, run and find the highest fight of stairs, and run up those, that's what i'd do, otherwise, STICK UP FOR YOURSELF, punch him back! it's self defense.
It also helps to have some really good friends around you. Keep the friends that stood by you and helped you tell an adult.
Just hope you dont end up going to the same High School.
Also if someone ever comes at you with the intent to hurt you, if you are a REALLY fast runner and he's some fat slob, run and find the highest fight of stairs, and run up those, that's what i'd do, otherwise, STICK UP FOR YOURSELF, punch him back! it's self defense.
Any police officer in the world can tell you an assailant with a knife is considered a deadly threat within 21 feet.
You did the right thing to report him.
If you feel he or someone he knows is going to attempt revenge on you, it may be a good idea to file some sort of formal complaint with the police (so its on paper that you are worried... incase, god forbid, anything bad happened to you they know who to investigate)
You may also want to practice some basic disarming techniques.
Go for the stomach first... nobody tries to defend that area because everybody automatically tries for the head or groin. Act completely normal right up until you attack to confuse them. Even if their choking you act completely bored... until you punch them in the throat.
You did the right thing to report him.
If you feel he or someone he knows is going to attempt revenge on you, it may be a good idea to file some sort of formal complaint with the police (so its on paper that you are worried... incase, god forbid, anything bad happened to you they know who to investigate)
You may also want to practice some basic disarming techniques.
Go for the stomach first... nobody tries to defend that area because everybody automatically tries for the head or groin. Act completely normal right up until you attack to confuse them. Even if their choking you act completely bored... until you punch them in the throat.
Forget him, he brought a knife and it was stupid, if he felt he need something to protect him, ask an adult or have something with him alot(if he plays and sport and Lax stick or Baseball bat is good for carry back and forth from school) or have things he can use to defend him self on the way to school. (Leave something you can hit people with like a big stick, near school to walk home with)
His mistake..not yours for turning him in..you felt theated and did the right thing(what if he used the knife on someone else? or was joking around with it again and cut someone by mistake? to risky IMO)
His mistake..not yours for turning him in..you felt theated and did the right thing(what if he used the knife on someone else? or was joking around with it again and cut someone by mistake? to risky IMO)
I suppose I should keep my mouth shut, but this thread is really irking me.
First. If the kid brought a knife to a public school (and worse used that knife in a threatening way) then the police have already been contacted. If the police haven't been contacted, that's nothing less than gross negligence on the part of the school's administration.
Second. The subtext (and oftentimes the text) of this thread -- that we should celebrate the expulsion of a child who clearly needs adults, structure and role models -- is beyond disheartening to me. I recognize that we want to sympathize with the OP, and the OP deserves that sympathy -- s/he's had an awful day. But why are we so willingly blind to the motivation of the child victimizer -- to their desparation, loss, lack, pain ... whatever caused him to act out as such?
Such that:
Why are we so ready to neglect and dismiss the face of genunie human need?
First. If the kid brought a knife to a public school (and worse used that knife in a threatening way) then the police have already been contacted. If the police haven't been contacted, that's nothing less than gross negligence on the part of the school's administration.
Second. The subtext (and oftentimes the text) of this thread -- that we should celebrate the expulsion of a child who clearly needs adults, structure and role models -- is beyond disheartening to me. I recognize that we want to sympathize with the OP, and the OP deserves that sympathy -- s/he's had an awful day. But why are we so willingly blind to the motivation of the child victimizer -- to their desparation, loss, lack, pain ... whatever caused him to act out as such?
Such that:
Why are we so ready to neglect and dismiss the face of genunie human need?
Expulsion always seems like a weird punishment to me, since many of the kids who get expelled, don't ant to be in school in the first place and "enjoy" their expulsion.thedude110 said:
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I can't believe how much great stuff I missed by being home-schooled....
If someone is threatening you with a knife it's best to do what they say.
Thats a good way to get yourself stabbed in the gut....KingYaba said:
If someone is threatening you with a knife it's best to do what they say.
KingYaba said:
Thing with self defense especially in school, at least in my school. If a kid had a knife against my stomach, and I fought back and threw a punch I would also get suspended/expelled. So much for self defense.
You did the right thing OP. Don't worry about it. Stay with your friends for awhile as the kid or his friends probably won't make a move with a lot of witnesses around.
quagmire said:
Yeah thats the fact, if i hit him back i get in trouble
ZoomZoomZoom said:Or just bring a MBP to school. Burn that kid good if he gets close to you.
Ahhahahah, that made my day
KingYaba said:
all i know is that he is gone, he has to go against the board of Directors or something, they might let him go if he had just HAD the knife, but the fact that he was pointing it at me changes everything....I hope that kid gets in Juvy for his life..
generik said:
.....uhhhh.....no..
Have your parents ask if the school notified the police. If not, have them do that, and I would agree with getting a restraining order. You don't need to be worrying about this stuff in middle school, for God's sake.
And you might want to look into Taekwondo or something...
And you might want to look into Taekwondo or something...
While I can definitely sympathize, some of these replies do seem a little extreme...
This is only middle school, and although threatening is by no means justified, I don't think the kid had any intent to harm anyone. Granted an accident could have happened, but I'm sure you could die at the hands of a pencil sharpener as well.
The kid will learn his lesson; there's no point in him turning into a criminal and ruining his life because he brought a knife to school. He got away with toeing the line before, but after being suspended and risking expulsion, I'm sure neither he nor his parents are going to let him get into a similar situation again.
The only thing I'd be worried about is his behavior towards you if and when he returns to school.
Worse comes to worse, spike his milk with laxatives.
reality
This is only middle school, and although threatening is by no means justified, I don't think the kid had any intent to harm anyone. Granted an accident could have happened, but I'm sure you could die at the hands of a pencil sharpener as well.
The kid will learn his lesson; there's no point in him turning into a criminal and ruining his life because he brought a knife to school. He got away with toeing the line before, but after being suspended and risking expulsion, I'm sure neither he nor his parents are going to let him get into a similar situation again.
The only thing I'd be worried about is his behavior towards you if and when he returns to school.
Worse comes to worse, spike his milk with laxatives.
reality
You say the school is taking drastic measures, which is great. Where was the teacher during this? I can't imagine missing something like this in a class, I guess it's possible though.
Did the administration at your school ask if you wanted to press charges? I know the principal where I teach does in such a case.
Did the administration at your school ask if you wanted to press charges? I know the principal where I teach does in such a case.
iSaint said:
No we are not pressing charges.
We were aloud to walk around the room to get supplies. And he just kept the knife low and put on my stomach.
Russian Systema. Totally great™ against opponents with superior weapons and/or numbers.StealthRider said:
And I agree that the poor kid is probably pulling knives on people because he had a screwed up life.
Therapy would be more useful than juvy.
Kingsly said:
I dont think his parents recognize him much..he says his mom goes to partys, or is never home.....he is very wealthy
Still no reson to harm me though
You have a point. The currant state of the 'American nuclear family unit' is really sad. Its a good time to be a therapist! Business must be good.oldnavy1918 said:I dont think his parents recognize him much..he says his mom goes to partys, or is never home.....he is very wealthy
Still no reson to harm me though
The only way to really cure someone like that is with love... but theres always the chance of getting stabbed as one moves in for a hug.
you have very good friends,imo, most "friends" would just be scared themselves and wont tell, you are in good hands...like what other people said, just stick with them,
You did the right thing talking to the school, that way if anything does happen, they already know your side of the story and you will have an exceptional edge.
You did the right thing talking to the school, that way if anything does happen, they already know your side of the story and you will have an exceptional edge.