know anything about land rovers?

[rdowns]

Then you're living up to your signature.

To add to my post, we stopped offering coverage on them when we paid out over $8,000 in repairs on 42% of the covered vehicles. Average cost to cover them was about $3,000.

 

[Counterfit]

*cough* Forester.

 

[ErikCLDR]

Our local Land Rover dealer, one of 3 in Connecticut has a pretty large parking lot for cars that are going in/out of the shop. No wonder they have valet parking, they don't want you to see all the cars that are getting fixed.

We had a 1989 Range Rover, relatively few issues, my dad got hit by a drunk driver in 1990 and that was the end of it. We had a 2003 Discovery- reliability was not wonderful, but we had a 75,000 warranty. Work done was a couple door locks, sunroof motor, air suspension spring, compressor, and control module, alternator, a fuel pump, oil pump, and a few engine sensors. I had a 1998 Discovery LSE for I dunno, 6 months until I hit a deer- only thing had to get fixed was the ignition (dealer wanted $750 to fix it, I did it for $35 and 20 min of my time). I have a 2000 Discovery now, it had the mass air flow sensor replaced, small coolant leak, and the hood latch repaired to the tune of $1500 at an independent rover repair shop. My mom has an 07 Range Rover Sport HSE and its been very good aside from a little electrical glitch that wouldn't let one of the windows go down.

Reliability sucks, but they are lovely cars.

Foresters are good cars too. The 2009 looks really nice if you ask me.

 

[twoodcc]

Then you're living up to your signature.

To add to my post, we stopped offering coverage on them when we paid out over $8,000 in repairs on 42% of the covered vehicles. Average cost to cover them was about $3,000.

thanks. dang, that sounds crazy

*cough* Forester.

never drove a subaru before. think i can get one for around $3,000? i would need at least a 1996 model

Our local Land Rover dealer, one of 3 in Connecticut has a pretty large parking lot for cars that are going in/out of the shop. No wonder they have valet parking, they don't want you to see all the cars that are getting fixed.

We had a 1989 Range Rover, relatively few issues, my dad got hit by a drunk driver in 1990 and that was the end of it. We had a 2003 Discovery- reliability was not wonderful, but we had a 75,000 warranty. Work done was a couple door locks, sunroof motor, air suspension spring, compressor, and control module, alternator, a fuel pump, oil pump, and a few engine sensors. I had a 1998 Discovery LSE for I dunno, 6 months until I hit a deer- only thing had to get fixed was the ignition (dealer wanted $750 to fix it, I did it for $35 and 20 min of my time). I have a 2000 Discovery now, it had the mass air flow sensor replaced, small coolant leak, and the hood latch repaired to the tune of $1500 at an independent rover repair shop. My mom has an 07 Range Rover Sport HSE and its been very good aside from a little electrical glitch that wouldn't let one of the windows go down.

Reliability sucks, but they are lovely cars.

Foresters are good cars too. The 2009 looks really nice if you ask me.

wow, i knew land rovers were expensive and all, but i didn't realize what it costs for the repairs and all that.

 

[ErikCLDR]

thanks. dang, that sounds crazy



never drove a subaru before. think i can get one for around $3,000? i would need at least a 1996 model



wow, i knew land rovers were expensive and all, but i didn't realize what it costs for the repairs and all that.

I didn't include the spare key cost. You can't just get a key, it has to be the all in one key+remote... $269 programmed. An oil change at the dealer is $83 for a discovery. $105 for a Range Rover Sport. $135 for a Range Rover. Thats why I change my own oil... for $30.

 

[twoodcc]

I didn't include the spare key cost. You can't just get a key, it has to be the all in one key+remote... $269 programmed. An oil change at the dealer is $83 for a discovery. $105 for a Range Rover Sport. $135 for a Range Rover. Thats why I change my own oil... for $30.

dang. that does sound crazy. i bet it would be a fun car to drive, especially since i like to go camping and all, but it seems it's just not worth it

 

[stainlessliquid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNFpRRYO65A

 

[Henri Gaudier]

Wow ... I don't recognise this scenario at all! All the Brits around here have Discos (as they call them) and everybody thinks they're great. More and more French are buying them too and I've not heard a moan yet.

 

[QCassidy352]

Ford Taurus. You can't beat them- very cheap, run forever, pretty reliable. Thats why they're always used as fleet vehicles.

If you're looking for reliable, look into Hondas as well.

well, i wrecked and sold my truck for $7800. so i could spend $8000, or anything less. but that is the question: spend it all on a nicer car, or spend less on something that has more miles and is older?

sorry, but my family tends to stay away from american made cars, so it's kinda been beaten into me to do the same.

yeah, i've heard good things about hondas. my family loves toyotas, but both honda and toyota have such high resell values, it's hard to get a good deal.

I said Taurus just because you'll get a newer Taurus with less miles compared to something Japanese. So if you're really on a budget I would go with a Taurus . Otherwise I would go with an Accord, Maxima, or Camry. But with those in the 8,000 price range, they're going to be typically in the early 2000's with 85,000+. With a civic for that price you can get an early 2000's model with like 70,000 miles. Compare that to a Taurus where you could get an 03, 04, maybe even 05 for your price with 30,000 - 50,000 miles.

My dad has a taurus, and I used to have a mercury sable (basically the same car). They are spacious, safe, and decently reliable, but their reliablility is nothing like a honda or toyota, and the gas milage isn't very good. It's not a *bad* choice, but I don't think I'd buy one again.

As far as hondas go, they are a great choice, but you're not going to find a great deal on a used one (at least, I couldn't - I was shopping for a car a month ago). 06's with 30K miles had sticker prices $1600-$2000 below brand new 08's!

The best deal I found on a used Honda was an '01 accord EX with all the options for $10,600 and only $40K miles, but nothing else came close to that.

The funny thing about civics vs. accords is that accords have a sticker price almost $10K higher, but at the places I went, used civics from the early 2000s were selling for MORE than used accords from the same time with similar mileage. In today's buying climate you're going to pay a big premium for gas efficiency.

Good luck twood. You have lots of options, so don't limit yourself in what you're checking out as possibilities!

 

[twoodcc]

My dad has a taurus, and I used to have a mercury sable (basically the same car). They are spacious, safe, and decently reliable, but their reliablility is nothing like a honda or toyota, and the gas milage isn't very good. It's not a *bad* choice, but I don't think I'd buy one again.

As far as hondas go, they are a great choice, but you're not going to find a great deal on a used one (at least, I couldn't - I was shopping for a car a month ago). 06's with 30K miles had sticker prices $1600-$2000 below brand new 08's!

The best deal I found on a used Honda was an '01 accord EX with all the options for $10,600 and only $40K miles, but nothing else came close to that.

The funny thing about civics vs. accords is that accords have a sticker price almost $10K higher, but at the places I went, used civics from the early 2000s were selling for MORE than used accords from the same time with similar mileage. In today's buying climate you're going to pay a big premium for gas efficiency.

Good luck twood. You have lots of options, so don't limit yourself in what you're checking out as possibilities!

thanks. i just don't know what i'm going to do. can't decide if i should just go cheap, and then maybe buy something else in a few years after i have a job (graduating at the end of this month hopefully) or if i should get something that will last a good while

 

[d_and_n5000]

thanks. i just don't know what i'm going to do. can't decide if i should just go cheap, and then maybe buy something else in a few years after i have a job (graduating at the end of this month hopefully) or if i should get something that will last a good while

I'd almost certainly get something that will last you a while. That way, later on, when you do have a job, have graduated, and are moving and everything else, you won't have the little voice in the back of your head saying, "OK, now I need to look for a new car, OK, this has gone on long enough, I need to scope out a replacement, OK..." It won't be an issue. Plus, maybe it's just my family, but it drives all of us insane to drive new cars. Our two are the only one's we're used to, and adding another usually results in frustration for a while.

 

[twoodcc]

I'd almost certainly get something that will last you a while. That way, later on, when you do have a job, have graduated, and are moving and everything else, you won't have the little voice in the back of your head saying, "OK, now I need to look for a new car, OK, this has gone on long enough, I need to scope out a replacement, OK..." It won't be an issue. Plus, maybe it's just my family, but it drives all of us insane to drive new cars. Our two are the only one's we're used to, and adding another usually results in frustration for a while.

thanks, and you do have a point. plus, if i get a $3,000 junker, i would be worried about it getting me to where i was going. i would be afraid that i could break down, or not start up when i go to leave

 

[kellen]

I have been thinking about picking up a vehicle besides my SUV and I think it would have to be a subaru sedan, no wagon.

They get good gas mileage, great engine, AWD, manual tranny is a blast to drive.

Cons I heard they go through u joints and if not careful they can blow a gasket easier due to overheating.

I personally just picked up a 2000 Jeep Cherokee a year ago for less than 5 grand with only 95,000 miles. Great vehicle. Small on the outside, but seems big inside. I-6 engine, gets good gas mileage (almost 20) and parts are everywhere. Cheap to work on, easy to do things yourself. Best of all they have a great online following, due to people offroading them, so if you have a question its only a click away.

Best luck.

Can't you just run everywhere?

 

[twoodcc]

I have been thinking about picking up a vehicle besides my SUV and I think it would have to be a subaru sedan, no wagon.

They get good gas mileage, great engine, AWD, manual tranny is a blast to drive.

Cons I heard they go through u joints and if not careful they can blow a gasket easier due to overheating.

I personally just picked up a 2000 Jeep Cherokee a year ago for less than 5 grand with only 95,000 miles. Great vehicle. Small on the outside, but seems big inside. I-6 engine, gets good gas mileage (almost 20) and parts are everywhere. Cheap to work on, easy to do things yourself. Best of all they have a great online following, due to people offroading them, so if you have a question its only a click away.

Best luck.

Can't you just run everywhere?

thanks. haha, i wish i could run everywhere.

i am actually thinking about getting a mid-size SUV - a nissan xterra. i actually had one before i got my truck. i just don't know what to do....

 

[Counterfit]

Foresters are good cars too. The 2009 looks really nice if you ask me.

2009 Forester? You mean the Rav4?
The 2008 Forester XT looks so badass.

never drove a subaru before. think i can get one for around $3,000? i would need at least a 1996 model

You can get something around a 96 for around $3

They get good gas mileage, great engine, AWD, manual tranny is a blast to drive.

Compared to an SUV, yes; 1.8 aside; AWD is FUN! in the snow.

Cons I heard they go through u joints and if not careful they can blow a gasket easier due to overheating.

I've never heard of U-joint problems, and CV joint issues seem to be on par with other Japanese manufacturers. With overheating, your main worry isn't so much the head gasket, but if the head itself warps. It doesn't usually require replacement, but it will need to be machined to match the block again.

 

[kellen]

2009 Forester? You mean the Rav4?
The 2008 Forester XT looks so badass.

You can get something around a 96 for around $3

Compared to an SUV, yes; 1.8 aside; AWD is FUN! in the snow.


I've never heard of U-joint problems, and CV joint issues seem to be on par with other Japanese manufacturers. With overheating, your main worry isn't so much the head gasket, but if the head itself warps. It doesn't usually require replacement, but it will need to be machined to match the block again.

I could be wrong on the specific part being the u joints or whatever, but something in the drive train is a common problem that needs addressing every other year or so. Thats just from my research. Wasn't a big deal, something the home mechanic could do.

Parents had a 93 Range Rover. Stay away. Ran fine though, but they get horrendous gas mileage and require premium. Very picky vehicle. Although it is a nice car, built like a tank. Dad had a couple, he said that if you are going to buy a Range Rover (or jaguar), buy two because one will always be in the shop.

Bottom end of the car market has really washed up. Now quite expensive for a little car to run around in due to gas prices.

Acura TL, Honda Accord, Subaru Sedan, Toyota Camry should be safe bets.

All cars have their quirks, just trying to find one with those you can live with is the key.

 

[garybUK]

I can't believe this, Land Rovers are a million miles better than Jeeps!! uuugh jeep?! they are a pile of rubbish! my uncle has a LR Defender, Awesome car, thats why 20 year old defenders still go for £££ on the used market.

I agree though the old Freelander was a chelsea trackter (used by mothers for school runs), don't bother with them. Disco's are the ones to go for.

As for reliability and engines / they are the best, Rover V6 engine is the one to get but now they use Jaguar engines.

I had a disco 2.3ltr V6 HSE from my company, it was a nice car!! only thing is it cost me a fortune in Diesel!!