Kodi- sideloaded. Yearly update -dev account?

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I had a developer account i paid for last september and installed kodi on my Appletv in november. I thought i wouldn't have it anymore after a year and my dev account expired late september.
Does kodi just stop working all of a sudden when you don't renew your dev account?
 

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I think it has to do with the developer certificates, they expire at least annually, if not quarterly. So, you have to re-make the package and re-install it every so often. I suspect ATV apps are required to update on a regular basis to weed out apps that developers abandon.

An alternative I am using is to install Kodi on MAC and Airplay Mirror to ATV. With Kodi launched and in foreground, click on the Airplay icon in the menu bar and select your ATV. Then, start your stream on the Mac and watch on ATV.

There is a free remote app for Kodi (Sybu Kodi) that can be installed from the iOS App Store. With a couple settings on Kodi, you can enable remote apps to control the app on the Mac. So, from your ATV location, the Kodi app interface from the Mac will appear on screen and you use the Sybu app to navigate to the content you want to stream. I don't believe the Mac version of Kodi has certificate requirements, it is downloaded and installed from outside of the MAS. So, I suspect it will run indefinitely.
 

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im confused why i still have it...I installed it about a year and a half ago and have updated the software numerous times but kodi is still working fine. not sure why i still have it.
 

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Taste the honey, stranger - and ask no questions...
Not sure what that means but I'll take it. Year and a half later and my kodi app is working just fine and update the software on the appletv when it comes out. Bizarre
 
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Just out of curiosity, which version of Kodi are you running? I'm assuming you didn't update to ver 17?
 

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shows kodi 17.0-alpha 1. Whichever version that is.
17.1 is the latest version. In your case it's probably not worth upgrading as you'll risk it stopping working.

This is really interesting that yours hasn't expired. The main reason I haven't yet bought an ATV4 was because I read that the certificate for sideloading Kodi is supposed to expire in 7 days (1 year in the case of a paid Dev account).

I've been testing a MiBox I bought from Walmart ($69) that runs Android TV. My uses are mainly Kodi, Netflix and Youtube - so far it has far surpassed my expectations. But I've been keeping my eyes out for any Kodi news on ATV, pretty much everything else I have at home is Apple.
 

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17.1 is the latest version. In your case it's probably not worth upgrading as you'll risk it stopping working.

This is really interesting that yours hasn't expired. The main reason I haven't yet bought an ATV4 was because I read that the certificate for sideloading Kodi is supposed to expire in 7 days (1 year in the case of a paid Dev account).

I've been testing a MiBox I bought from Walmart ($69) that runs Android TV. My uses are mainly Kodi, Netflix and Youtube - so far it has far surpassed my expectations. But I've been keeping my eyes out for any Kodi news on ATV, pretty much everything else I have at home is Apple.
yea I'm not sure why i still have mine working its going on a year and year and 5 months now. plenty happy with version 17 not sure what difference the newer one makes at all. I also have provenance with games loaded on it working fine still.
 

MagnusVonMagnum

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What does it cost to get an Apple Dev account? $99? For goodness sake, just buy an Amazon FireTV 4K for $80-99 at most and you'll have no more problems installing Kodi for for the rest of its useful life (and it has full hardware decoding support). I ditched AppleTV entirely for FireTV and don't miss it AT ALL. Good riddance. I can even still sync the whole house music (with Airport Express units) using Kodi's own Airplay and iTunes. The only hard part is if you bought a movie library from Apple (because of DRM). Just another reason to buy Blu-Rays instead.
 

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What does it cost to get an Apple Dev account? $99? For goodness sake, just buy an Amazon FireTV 4K for $80-99 at most and you'll have no more problems installing Kodi for for the rest of its useful life (and it has full hardware decoding support). I ditched AppleTV entirely for FireTV and don't miss it AT ALL. Good riddance. I can even still sync the whole house music (with Airport Express units) using Kodi's own Airplay and iTunes. The only hard part is if you bought a movie library from Apple (because of DRM). Just another reason to buy Blu-Rays instead.
Because of the other things. I use airplay DAILY. I like using my phone as a remote when i don't have the little remote in front of me. A fire stick won't be able to do this for me. I also use my apple watch if i can't find my phone or remote. Its nice having siri search for things and having installed app(shows) in one place in the Tv app. Im not sure if i can instal emulators on a fire stick can you? Theres many reasons i like the Apple TV setup.
 

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Because of the other things. I use airplay DAILY. I like using my phone as a remote when i don't have the little remote in front of me. A fire stick won't be able to do this for me.
Are you using Airplay for videos or music or both? Music works with Kodi (and iTunes still works with videos for home share; I can use "remote" on my iPod Touch to send iTunes stuff to Kodi, for example). Video used to work, but Apple changed the standard and broke it for 3rd party stuff again (on purpose). There are Kodi remote apps for Apple and Android and even Windows phones. I wouldn't get a Fire "stick" either way. It's too slow and has issues with Kodi (skips or loses audio sometimes with 1080p). The FireTV 4K works much better.

I also use my apple watch if i can't find my phone or remote. Its nice having siri search for things and having installed app(shows) in one place in the Tv app. Im not sure if i can instal emulators on a fire stick can you? Theres many reasons i like the Apple TV setup.
FireTV has its own Apps. I know Pinball Arcade is available for it. I don't really game on it, though. Obviously, it doesn't have Siri. It has ALEXA, which works with Amazon Prime. I can reorder something with it, etc.

Also, keep in mind you can also have BOTH. I have an AppleTV Gen2 in my living room AND a FireTV4K. For Kodi by itself, there are better options than FireTV (e.g. NVidia Shield).
 

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Are you using Airplay for videos or music or both? Music works with Kodi (and iTunes still works with videos for home share; I can use "remote" on my iPod Touch to send iTunes stuff to Kodi, for example). Video used to work, but Apple changed the standard and broke it for 3rd party stuff again (on purpose). There are Kodi remote apps for Apple and Android and even Windows phones. I wouldn't get a Fire "stick" either way. It's too slow and has issues with Kodi (skips or loses audio sometimes with 1080p). The FireTV 4K works much better.



FireTV has its own Apps. I know Pinball Arcade is available for it. I don't really game on it, though. Obviously, it doesn't have Siri. It has ALEXA, which works with Amazon Prime. I can reorder something with it, etc.

Also, keep in mind you can also have BOTH. I have an AppleTV Gen2 in my living room AND a FireTV4K. For Kodi by itself, there are better options than FireTV (e.g. NVidia Shield).
I do both. Music from steaming or loaded songs on my phone. I also listen a sound app over my surround sound when i go to bed. I also have a hard drive connected to my modem for my 500+ movie list i airplay through iTunes. I could have both but i already have way too much stuff i don't want two different devices that i can get out of one with a little bit of work.
 

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Looks like the Kodi forums have been seized by Homeland Security, implying copyright violations or something to that effect.

Never mind, apparently it's an April Fool's joke (kind of a sick one, IMO).
 
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Don't blame me. It was their joke (they really had a Homeland Security warning up and the site down for 24 hours).
I doubt the remark was directed at you, more likely directed at the extremely cruel joke by the Kodi team. I fell for it too.
 

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Finally stopped working. Had to pay for a service to get kodi and popcorn time back on there.