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Kuo: 2024 iPhone Could Be All-Screen With Face ID and Camera Under Display

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Apple could launch its first full-screen smartphone in 2024, with the "iPhone 16 Pro" potentially the first Apple device to feature under-display Face ID and an under-screen front camera, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in a tweet today.

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I think the real full-screen iPhone will come in 2024. High-end iPhones in 2024 would adopt an under-display front camera alongside the under-display Face ID. A low-light condition is detrimental to front camera quality, and ISP & algorithm are critical for quality improvements.
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Kuo's comments build on his previous prediction that an iPhone with under-screen Touch ID no longer features in Apple's short-term plans. Indeed, Kuo's latest tweet links to a previous one in which he agreed with display analyst Ross Young's claim that under-screen Face ID is coming to the iPhone 16, while Touch ID isn't.

In his earlier tweet, Kuo suggested that Apple's roadmap for adopting under-display Face ID in 2024 was "less of a technical issue" and more likely a marketing decision, but his latest thoughts on the matter appear to suggest that current hardware and software limitations could also be a factor as Apple works to perfect under-screen technology.

This year's high-end ‌‌iPhone‌‌ 14 models are expected to ditch the notch, replacing it with a pill-shaped cutout and hole-punch camera. Where Apple goes from there is unclear, but a rumor in 2019 claimed Apple has prototyped at least one iPhone with an edge-to-edge screen, with the TrueDepth camera sensors for Face ID instead housed in the thin bezel above the display.

Article Link: Kuo: 2024 iPhone Could Be All-Screen With Face ID and Camera Under Display
 
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Personally, what I would like to see is Face ID and offer touch ID embedded under the display, where the user has both biometric options if they want for different use cases. I know that’s not very ‘Apple-like’, but I think it would be the perfect scenario to have everything concealed, but give the user options other than just Face ID.
 
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DHagan4755 said:
Hmmmm if this is true, how might this impact Apple's other products, like the MacBook Pro?
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Like full self-driving, it’ll be any day now for years to come. FSD, as far as I’m concerned, is a car sold with no steering wheel. Not a car that drives slowly and diagonally awkwardly across a car park. It’s also something I personally have no real interest in. But that’s another conversation.
 
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2024. Hmmm it always seems to be just another year beyond our reach doesn't it. In my day the saying was, "Ya when pigs fly". I don't understand why they keep listening to the same sources.
 
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When they say "under display camera" they actually mean a camera that shoots through a hole in the display.

Then they throw a smattering of pixels over the hole to try to disguise the hole.

I'll tell you what... if you put anything over the lens of a camera... it messes it up. I don't care how much "Artificial Intelligence" or "Deep Learning" they put into the image processing.

There should never be anything covering a camera lens.

Now if they do have a way to process the image to eliminate any distortion caused by pixels over the lens... imagine how good the image would be if there wasn't a bunch of crap in front of the camera.

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I have always wondered at this strange obsession with no bezels. Thin ones seem so much more helpful to me than none when it comes to handholding, no accidental touches, and obscuring the screen with fingers or case.
 
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nwcs said:
I have always wondered at this strange obsession with no bezels. Thin ones seem so much more helpful to me than none when it comes to handholding, no accidental touches, and obscuring the screen with fingers or case.
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I think it's an obsession that's come purely out of science fiction, with people using devices that are little more than a piece of glass with an interface on it, or holographic and floating in air. There is little actual usability in these devices, because they don't actually have to be used. They're just eye candy on screen.

You're absolutely right about people not understanding the ergonomic considerations of having no "edge" on a touch screen handheld device. People on Reddit constantly ask how to remove the space below the keyboard on the devices with no home button. They don't understand that if it rests right against the bottom edge of the device, it's both an ergonomic and a usability nightmare, for the sake of what… 100 more pixels above the keyboard?
 
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