I see. Thanks.
So the fight for USB-C is over. USB-C won. Got it.
But my point was... we're still waiting for the implementation of USB-C on the iPhone.
And for that... we're still waiting.
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I see. Thanks.
So the fight for USB-C is over. USB-C won. Got it.
But my point was... we're still waiting for the implementation of USB-C on the iPhone.
And for that... we're still waiting.
A quick Google search shows the majority of lightning cables aren't but ok, we will use your anecdotal evidence for the poor quality apple lightning cables...
I can see it on a portable, low-power handheld device such as your beard trimmer. A device that you may actually want to carry with you when travelling.
The hairdryer though is a pipe dream - or rather would be a nightmare in the making. USB-C cables and the standard support up to 100 watts or 250 watts of power today. But only very few devices and cables (and cable lengths) actually do. And at higher and higher output, it gets tricky to get designs right, prevent overheating, arcing etc.
Hairdryers typically use 1000 to 2000 watts.
We have very reliable 2- or 3-wire cables today that can support these wattages and can be made very cheaply.
Considering that we also have a plethora of different USB-C type of cables that do not support so many watts, that cables are much more complex and expensive to make, require digital handshakes to negotiate available power (and voltage), and we have seen companies "cheaping out" on the required chips or cable quality, the last thing I need is converting hairdryers to USB-C.
PS: Last but not least, USB-C connectors are vastly inferior mechanically to other commonly used connectors/plugs for higher voltage/wattage usage.
Hairdryers, for good reason, typically don't even have detachable cables.
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Perfect. And we’ll use your google search results as anecdotal evidence of good quality?
Technical reasons aside, considering how you actually use a hairdryer the USB-C cable would just keep disconnecting. Better to have the power cord firmly attached.
The bottom line of all of this is that if and when Apple makes the switch, then EVERY single PLUGGABLE cord made by Apple will have a USB-C port on both ends (MagSafe doesn't count). So, for the first time in Apple's history, they will finally have port uniformity among every device. This has GOT to be a good thing, right? This is exactly the kind of Zen moment Steve Jobs was always searching for.
It takes literally 10 seconds to look up: iPad (the current plain 10.2" model). Go check the tech specs on it. Lightning.
It's almost as if you're completely overlooking the opportunities for high-speed data transfer with the hair dryer.
„Unsurprisingly, the base model iPad accounted for the majority of sales“
https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/15/ipad-market-share/
Tech reviews and enthusiast forums like this don‘t always reflect the buying patterns of (more „casual“) consumers or organisations (schools, enterprises) that buy them in larger quantities.
I know you're right, I was being slightly facetious, but it's still a dream. Everything else that requires relatively low power, I would love to see. For example, soundbars, printers, monitors, TVs, don't draw thousands of watts. I recently had to replace the adapter on a Harman Kardon Onyx Studio, not particularly expensive but just annoying to think that the 60W it needed is now in the reach of a USB C cable, and one day, if they are more common place, that could be the standard
For whatever reason, Apple decided at some point that Pro iPads would use USB-C to support external drives and accessories, while the regular iPads would keep using Lightning. My guess is that they've considered Lightning a "casual use" cable that iPhone users will definitely already own.
I can sort of see how they got into this mess. There was nothing as good as the Lightning connector when it debuted. It was an absolutely massive upgrade over that huge, fragile 30-pin connector. Remember, this was back when other smartphones were rocking horrible little Micro USB connectors at best. Fast forward a decade and there's a gigantic installed base of millions of Lightning devices and accessories. For whatever reason (maybe that licensing $ stream?) they stuck with Lightning as Android and a lot of other devices coalesced around USB-C -- including Apple's Mac hardware.
It's definitely a mess! For my preferences, I honestly don't care a ton which connector they use because they're both fine for my use (charging only), and carrying around a second cable does not cross the threshold of inconvenience for me to care too much either way.
But the writing is on the wall that Lightning is really holding things back for a lot of uses. I mean, when you're shipping an iPhone Pro that can shoot ProRes footage but offers no viable to offload footage quickly, you've pretty much blown it, engineering-wise.
You don't appear to understand the meaning of "refurbished" in this context (that would be "something which was sold, then received back and cleaned up for resale"). The iPad in question is the current base model iPad, aka "iPad (9th generation)", and plenty of them are being newly manufactured and sold. Same with the iPhone SE (3rd generation). I expect you can buy refurbished instances of either one, but the ones rolling off the assembly line are not refurbished.
You don't get to just arbitrarily/unilaterally redefine what words mean, they have accepted meanings. Otherwise conversation (the whole point of language) doesn't work.
If what you mean is that the iPad (9th generation) is based on older tech - that is not refurbished, and you're falling into the No True Scotsman fallacy.
I understand your concerns. I'm sure that given people are going to plug in the charging cable on an iPhone a LOT, they will make sure the USB Type C connector will be reasonably durable.
The USB-C connector is inherently less durable than the Lightning connector (more fiddly little bits to get messed up). They'll do what they can.
You literally used 1 person (yourself) as the beacon saying the cables are good. A google search is going to return many more than 1 person, but nice try though... Hope apple sends you a nice check for simping for them and their poor quality cables.
You can’t detect sarcasm, can you? Lame upgrade is lame upgrade period.
Besides, I don’t give a dime about what you label me
Out of the hundreds of millions of lightning cables a few hits with a google search proves the point that lightning cables are fragile? You are welcome to believe that. And yes, my anecdotal evidence counts as much as the anecdotal evidence from google searches. I don’t know if you believe the cables should be virtually indestructible?
Yet Apple had enough confidence to put it on their Macbooks and most of recent iPads, including the most expensive 12.9” Pro.
So I believe Lightning (despite few of its benefits) is getting more and more irrelevant nowadays.
For the love of God, can Apple please redesign the Magic Mouse so it can be used WHILE it is being charged?! This is the worst design choice ever. Use the change to USB-C to right this wrong.
Not very often, but when it runs empty, I must stop working while the stupid thing charges. Why the charging port isn't at the top of the mouse (allowing you to charge AND use it) is a mystery to me. I shouldn't have to keep a close eye on my mouse to make sure it is charged.
? I have is when does it warn you, and is the warning hard to miss? My MS BT mouse doesn't warn me until 5%, and I think it is really less because it dies fairly quickly once it warns me.
Yes any one way connectors need to die already. If I don't look, it's a 99.99999999999......% chance I fail.Unfortunately we're going to be stuck with USB-A for a long time. I went on a flight not long ago on an American Airlines 737 with its new "refreshed" interior.
Right in front of me on the back of the seat in front of me was a USB-A connector for charging my phone. If I only had the USB-C to lightning cable that comes with newer iPhones, I wouldn't have been able to use it to keep my phone charged. Luckily I always travel with a couple USB-A to lightning cables.
Most phone charging stations in the wild use USB-A still. I rarely ever see a USB-C port in my travels. New cars only started coming with USB-C fairly recently, and they're usually "charge only" ports that don't let you use things like CarPlay.
USB-A will be with us for a long time still, it's still being put into new stuff, and we're going to have to keep an USB-A charging cable with us for the forseeable future if we want maximum convenience.
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