You may be right, but it *does* sound like between this years iPhone Air and next years iPhone Fold, there are going to be plenty of hardware features that will interest people significantly more than AI ever could.
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Kuo: Apple Knows Apple Intelligence is 'Underwhelming' and Won't Drive iPhone Upgrades
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I find the apple intelligence features on my iPhone and Mac mostly useful. I don’t think the average person really cares that much. Siri works great for the tasks like dictation,reading text messages and HomeKit actions. That is 99% of what people want and uses Siri for. You can always say “hey siri ask ChatGPT…..”
Kuo is very good at manipulating stock prices with his “apple is doomed” statements. This smells a lot like that.
It’s absurd that people in forums pile on Apple while they are hugely profitable and their phones are selling extremely well. Proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Kuo is very good at manipulating stock prices with his “apple is doomed” statements. This smells a lot like that.
It’s absurd that people in forums pile on Apple while they are hugely profitable and their phones are selling extremely well. Proof of the pudding is in the eating.
I genuinely use the writing tool to make concise maybe one or two times each day. Others might find it useless, but I find it helpful because I tend to ramble on and on and on and on and on and........
None are personally useful for me. I turned it off, mostly so I could get the old Siri animation back as I find the new one to be a bit too intrusive and bright (especially in CarPlay).
Siri is not welcome in my home.
My current phone does not support Apple AI, or whatever it's called.
When I choose to upgrade to an iPhone that does support AI, I will immediately turn it off.
My current phone does not support Apple AI, or whatever it's called.
When I choose to upgrade to an iPhone that does support AI, I will immediately turn it off.
I use proofreading in Writing Tools, and ChatGPT integration with Siri quite often. They are both very useful for my workflow. 👍🏻
Yeah, but Apple was always like "we'll release it when it's ready". It seems this caught them by surprised, so they rushed it, rushed the feature set preview and said it would be out by this time.
Marketed the crap out of the features to push the iPhone 16 generation. It now may end up being that iPhone 16's won't be able to run some of these features a few down the road, because the hardware may not be good enough.
I guess it'll be "Built for Apple Intelligence V2".
The 17 “Air” may not be that cool if Apple relies solely on the thinness angle to sell it. It will need something that can actually wow people like a more capable single lens camera, maybe with a mechanical aperture. As for the folding phone, I don’t think it will be ready next year.
Yeah, a lot of these people come across like they dislike Apple in the first place and are just looking for something to whine about. Tech writers want to spin this into an artificial scandal like Apple never really intends on releasing the features, or that they never worked on them, when clearly all of the evidence we have indicates that they were in fact working on them, and were likely even close to release, but ran into issues requiring reworking that will delay the release. Gurman cited sources inside Apple saying that the features were planned for release in 18.4, then he cited internal sources again saying the features had been delayed to 18.5. We have zero reason to believe that these features aren’t in development, and we have several reasons to believe they are, despite these people’s wild unfounded claims…
There are zero indicators the iPhone 16 hardware is incapable of running the features. This is merely wild conjecture with zero evidence or reason to believe it…
Maybe that’s the reason we’re getting 12GB on the 17 Pro and 17 Pro Max. Apple’s current implementation of AI is already outdated and the version Apple really wants to release will leave all current devices with 8GB of RAM behind. I’m so glad I didn’t get the 16 Pro. We may even get 12GB of RAM on the 17 and 17 Air.
We don’t even know that the 17 Pro or 17 Pro Max will get 12GB RAM, those are just rumors. And even if they’re true, that doesn’t mean the Apple Intelligence features won’t support 8GB iPhones. More wild conjecture with zero evidence to support it, and no reason to believe it…
Are you saying that the extra RAM and storage is there for AI, but can be used for anything you want, which is a bonus? I'm not understanding how AI is the reason you'd buy one of those phones.
If done right and it’s not priced much more than a iPhone pro max, that could be interesting, but I think that is many years into the future.
I had hoped to for a good reason to upgrade my 13pro last year, maybe this year, but probably not
This also, again, reinforces the weakness of Tim Cook in that he does not have vision nor the technical expertise. I'm not saying that Tim Cook didn't bring something important to Apple, but he wasn't and isn't the "complete package". It is time for Apple to move on.
Seriously! If the mockups of iPhone 17 are real, I don't understand how anyone in Apple could think it was a great idea to make the camera bump BIGGER and cover the top 1/4th of the iPhone. Yes, the off center camera bump is annoying (that was Apple's first mistake), but don't double down on it. Just make the cameras horizontal across the top.
Apple hasn't even built their AI server datacenter. And, they are sticking to AI on the device. I fully appreciate the commitment to privacy, but IMO that is putting the cart before the horse. If Apple is behind, build the LLM on robust servers with computational power and then move to the a privacy-focused device model.
Speaking of other AI engines, of the many things that Elon Musk has done, he did build that Grok datacenter right quick and led the Grok team to build IMO the leading AI engine. I thought all of this AI stuff was hype until I used Grok3 this past weekend on a personal project. It saved me countless of hours of research and gave me pros and cons of each option. I was impressed.
"Siri works great" is a gross overstatement. I do use Siri, but I find it to be unreliable and poorly responsive when it works. I also have the "privilege" of Siri stop responding every so often, so I have to reboot my phone to get it to work again.
You have every right to overlook Apple's misrepresentation of "enhanced Siri", but the rest of us also have the right to hold Apple accountable for it. I think Kuo was spot on this time. I feel like I was sold a bill of goods. I could have waited for the next version of the iPhone because I bought 16PM for the enhanced Siri.
You also have to see what it represents. I used to think AI was a gimmick until I used Grok3 this past weekend for a personal project. I was impressed, and it radically changed my perspective. Apple is a dinosaur if it doesn't have AI, and I'm not even talking about "Siri layered on top of ChatGPT" sort of crap. I keep thinking of how short of a timespan it took Apple to change the mobile phone landscape. Arguably, it took 3 years., but for argument sake, let's say 5 years. Apple could be like Nokia in 5 years, so in 1-2 phone purchases. AI is progressing that quickly. Yes, Apple has that pile of cash, but once you are a dinosaur, it can only delay the inevitable for so long. People will want a functional AI on their next phone. I do!
I'm not sure "not knowing what they want" is the same thing as "not having imagined something different". People could not have wanted a car if they hadn't imagined something like a car.
When it comes to AI, I think people want choices. I was literally someone who thought AI was a gimmick until this past weekend when I used Grok3 out of curiosity for a personal project. Now, I want AI but not for everything. I want AI on my terms. I don't need AI to summarize documents or emails, but someone else may. I just want AI to be available to help make some task easier or as a companion to make sure I stay on track or avoid a mistake, but someone else might think that is too intrusive.
If the 17 Pro and 17 Pro Max get 12GB, it will be for one of two reasons, maybe both. Those reasons would be the camera and/or AI which could possibly be enhanced in some way thanks to the extra memory. This place is called MacRumors so wild conjecture based on legit and not so legit sources is part of the package you’re getting when you come here. You could ignore these articles and wait for the real deal on September 9, 2025.
What’s wrong with a little criticism from time to time, especially when it’s justified? Apple made AI the star of the show when they introduced the 16 lineup and marketed the hell out of it in their cringy commercials last year. This year they went radio silent. A brief statement would’ve been nice to give us a clearer picture. Maybe they’ll mention something during the 17 lineup presentation if it’s still not there yet?
Yep. The point of the whole iPhone 16 announcement was A.I. Remember what Tim said? Built from ground up around Apple Intelligence? 😁 Now we’re halfway from another iPhone launch and it’s nowhere near as promised.