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I like the Ultra line. However, the Ultra 2 release wasn't really enough for me to want to upgrade. Would have done it early on had I been following the blood oxygen lawsuit more closely. More money for me to send to Omega in the meantime.
 
I’ll wait for the UW3, assuming it is better than the regular AW11. I like the sleep apnea thing but I’ll just sit this out with m AW6. She’s just fine and cost $289 a few years ago When I replaced my $199 AW1.
 
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The product releases have become unbelievably underwhelming

Hanging by a thread with baited breath for whatever Apple might "Cook up" has long stopped being worth the energy

It's really sad. The presentations and the products are so stale and lacking in innovation and the push forward now.
That is just wrong. Products mature, but that does not necessarily make them "stale." A great product should not be expected to innovate multiple times a year as some folks seem to expect. E.g. the Apple Watch Ultra [including v1] discussed is a superb product without having some new innovation changing it.
 
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These are such mature markets. If you wanna go breakneck speed, start following AI or humanoid robot markets. Those will be mindblowing over the next decade.

I somewhat disagree
There is enormous room to innovate around offerings within product lines and with more diversity of options ..

None of it requires breakneck speed -- but it does require investment and energy and creativity

Apple is barely even trying anymore (in my view)
 
What do you mean? I'm able to preorder a Watch SE right now...

Isn't it updated?

Edit: Nevermind, hardware hasn't changed, can only be combined with different bands and its a bit cheaper.
 
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At this point Ming-Chi has to be on the payroll at MacRumors. This person could sneeze and it’s reported here.

I love you guys over at MacRumors. But 99% of what this person says is common sense. We know.
At least Ming-chi has some supply chain sources and actually puts out information based off of them.

Gurman is the one that boggles my mind. Literally on Friday, he put out a comment to expect an Ultra 3 as one of the products announced at the event, then on Sunday night said, Ultra 3 won't be announced at the event. There are countless other proclamations he has done in the last 5 or so years that are like this.

That guy just throws crap at the wall that any ardent follower of Apple can do and hopes to get some of it right. Which he does, but again, any ardent follow of Apple can do. He puts out content for the sake of putting out content, with nothing special to back it up.
 
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At least Ming-chi has some supply chain sources and actually puts out information based off of them.

Gurman is the one that boggles my mind. Literally on Friday, he put out a comment to expect an Ultra 3 as one of the products announced at the event, then on Sunday night said, Ultra 3 won't be announced at the event. There are countless other proclamations he has done in the last 5 or so years that are like this.

That guy just throws crap at the wall that any ardent follower of Apple can do and hopes to get some of it right. Which he does, but again, any ardent follow of Apple can do. He puts out content for the sake of putting out content, with nothing special to back it up.
And?
Everything they have predicted is basically common sense.
I’m not interested in what an analyst has to say.

It caused a 5% drop in Apple shares for hours until the market stabilized.

And now we have major tech media outlets and countless people making fun off Apple for selling us the same thing over and over again.

It’s a tired formula.
That’s why it’s so easy to predict.
 
wow ...we have a prophet here named Kuo...no one believed after the event, after Ultra 2 stuck with S9...that next year will dont get Ultra 3....
Next leak from Kuo " Ultra 3 will get S10
umm, actually Ultra 3 will get S11 if it comes out net September....
g\
 
Ah, such fun comments already!

Let's go back to the comments section on Kuo saying there might not be an Apple Watch Ultra 3 this year, all the way back in October 2023.

One of the first comments: "Kuo is getting bored. There will definitely be a new Ultra every year there will be a regular Apple Watch."

Kuo can't win on these forums.
Because we don’t care what Kuo has to say.
They are predicting a future we already know.
Nothing about their predictions lend to direct minute specificity on anything.

It’s like reporting the weather.
This just in, tomorrow’s forecast: Air and stuff.
 
Don't think Apple will skip updating next year also. That being said, it can be like some of Apple's other products that are not updated yearly like the HomePod or the AirPods Max
 
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A completely selfish perspective, but I'm quite happy to hear this.
I bought an SE Series 2 in July and I'd like to last at least one year as the current design.
 
All in all, it looks like customers will have to wait until next September for the next-generation Apple Watch Ultra and Apple Watch SE models.
That is simply too long for a wait.......

This is going to hurt Apple Watch sale in 2024. I think lot of "Pro" users were looking forward to Ultra 3 with S10 chip. So unless they are planning an S11 Pro chip in 2025, this is going to tank Apple Watch sales.

(I just finally watched Apple event and catching up on Apple news after avoiding it for three months so apologies for weird reply post here)
 
That is simply too long for a wait.......

This is going to hurt Apple Watch sale in 2024. I think lot of "Pro" users were looking forward to Ultra 3 with S10 chip. So unless they are planning an S11 Pro chip in 2025, this is going to tank Apple Watch sales.

(I just finally watched Apple event and catching up on Apple news after avoiding it for three months so apologies for weird reply post here)
Why wait for S10 if you have S9 today and they are the SAME chip with the SAME capabilities, performance etc... ? In reality, not only S9 = S10, but also S6 = S7 = S8. The real differences are S9 vs. S6.

The only missing thing in Ultra 2 vs. Apple Watch 10 is the screen with 1Hz refresh rate and better view angle.

I don't understand why they didn’t replace the display with the new technology on the Ultra as well. They could have done it without changing the design or even the chip, which could have remained the S9. This makes me think that the redesign costs would have been minimal. Perhaps there are other reasons that prevented this. The Ultra’s display is brighter, so maybe the suppliers didn’t have the new LTPO3 screens with sufficient brightness ready in time for the launch. If that’s the case, it would make sense for Apple to prioritize brightness over the 1Hz refresh rate for the Ultra.
 
The only missing thing in Ultra 2 vs. Apple Watch 10 is the screen with 1Hz refresh rate and better view angle.
This is another one that would have made Ultra, along with S10 chip worth the extra money. 1Hz refresh rate and better viewing angle makes a massive difference for hikers and athletes that goes out on the elements.

As it stands right now, it’s a hard pass for inferior device with outdated chip.
 
As I said the chip is not outdated. S10 is the same of S9, just repackaged to be thinner and fit into the new, slimmer (but wider!) design of the watch. It wouldn't have made any sense to include it in an Ultra unless it was redesigned to make it thinner.
 
As I said the chip is not outdated. S10 is the same of S9, just repackaged to be thinner and fit into the new, slimmer (but wider!) design of the watch. It wouldn't have made any sense to include it in an Ultra unless it was redesigned to make it thinner.
They could have put the s10 and made the battery even larger on Ultra 3. This is something athletes and hikers have been asking for while: even longer battery life.

Apple really missed the opportunity to announce the Ultra 3 with s10 chip and better display and even longer battery life.
 
In 10 years, Apple has made no improvements to the battery life of its Watch Series. It seems battery life isn’t a priority for Apple (they prefer add features/power/change design with thinner one... than maintains constant feature but adding battery life). Yet, this is a real issue—in many situations, the battery is absolutely inadequate. And I’m not even talking about extreme sports activities, but just the Dolce Far Niente.

A Series watch fits my daily office routine with an hour of exercise fairly well, especially since being indoors most of the time means the screen uses less power. However, on vacation, lounging at the beach doing nothing, it doesn’t last the day. The issues are twofold: the screen consumes significantly more power in very bright environments like the beach, and occasional swims (leaving the phone on the shore) result in the watch losing its Bluetooth connection and switching to LTE. By midday, it’s dead—unless you put it in theater mode.

Ironically, even when battery life is technically sufficient, it’s still a problem. The watch often finishes the day with less than 20% charge, accelerating chemical wear on the battery. For example, compared to iPhone Max, which drains slowly and maintains 99% battery health after a year, Apple Watch is already at 90% or even less.
 
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