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I'm curious to see if it accommodates people who need corrective lenses.

Since Cook wears glasses himself, I'd bet the sun and the moon that it will accommodate glasses or offer some way to adapt for any prescription sans glasses.

Or Apple being Apple, Apple-branded lenses for Goggles will be available for "only $999 per eye" with an exclusive connector so that they are ONLY available from Apple. ;)
 
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The very passionate Apple fans will identify VR stuff that costs a LOT more than the rumored $3K.

The pessimists about this product will identify anything they could found that includes a VR tag and costs as little as as possible.

The correct answer is that we have nearly no idea because we barely know anything about this product right now. It could be so many things or only an Oculus+ with an Apple Logo on it. None of us have much more than guesses, hopes, misdirection and possibly a few clues that could as easily turn out to be wrong as they may be right.
I totally agree. Mind you, if some of these rumours are true, such as 12 optical cameras, then I reckon it will be far more capable than the 4 infrared cameras in the Occulus.

I really don't see how anyone can be so skeptical about something that "hasn't been announced".

Btw the Microsoft Hololens 2 is $3500!
I'm curious to see if it accommodates people who need corrective lenses.
If it's anything like the HoloLens 2, it will.
 
I really don't see how anyone can be so skeptical about something that "hasn't been announced".

Step back and look at the infamous original iPod thread... with posts right AFTER Apple announced it. It is incredible with disgust, shock, "way too expensive", et all. And we know how that turned out.

That product was what drew me into Apple... directly leading to getting a Mac to fully use it... which was Power Mac G4 which- as I recall- was "about $3K" as configured at that time. So one could say that I spent over $3K to buy a product that could put about 1000 songs in my pocket... had no cameras, no color (screen), no apps beyond the core one, etc.

And wow! It was GRRRRRRRRREAT!
 
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Step back and look at the infamous original iPod thread... with posts right AFTER Apple announced it. It is incredible with disgust, shock, "way too expensive", et all. And we know how that turned out.
Absolutely

I really don't understand why people are so negative about Apple Products, especially before they have actually been announced. I get that some devices don't meet the hype, but there is a reason 8 out of 10 iPhones were the top-selling phones in 2022, the Apple Watch and the iPads are the best sellers, worldwide.
 
Uhhh… Guys it’s happening…

Apple trademarked (via a shell corp) an "xrOS" word mark in SF Pro in New Zealand just last week


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I really don't see how anyone can be so skeptical about something that "hasn't been announced".

I think it's because many people want to see Apple fail, so they can feel better. The problem is, Apple has a very poor track record in meeting those expectations.

OTOH, I guess that could be characterized as a failure to fail. Winner winner, chicken diner...for many.
 
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Absolutely

I really don't understand why people are so negative about Apple Products, especially before they have actually been announced. I get that some devices don't meet the hype, but there is a reason 8 out of 10 iPhones were the top-selling phones in 2022, the Apple Watch and the iPads are the best sellers, worldwide.

Generally, this crowd is NOT. I've seen very passionate defenses for $20 handkerchiefs branded Apple. Every week there are a few of what I call Apple vs. <other> threads and whoever is slotted in <other>- no matter what the issue- is going to get bashed to no end. We will defend anything Apple... even if it seems to work against us as consumers.

But THIS product seems to be misinterpreted as one of those other <others>. I increasingly believe that when people see Goggle they think they see Google... and the hatred of the latter rains upon the thread like a biblical flood.

We're only weeks from the Lord, Almighty taking the stage and telling us why this product is good. And then, I suspect the flocks both far & wide will see the light and know that it is good... and embrace the good and spread the word about the good to all ends of the earth, evangelizing it as we have for handkerchiefs and socks and "not a notch, it's more screen RE to the left & right" and so, so, so much more.

Because once Apple turns rumors into reality- whatever it is at whatever price- will be "shut up and take my money" fantastic. All hail the Apple! ;)
 
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Since Cook wears glasses himself, I'd bet the sun and the moon that it will accommodate glasses or offer some way to adapt for any prescription sans glasses.

Or Apple being Apple, Apple-branded lenses for Goggles will be available for "only $999 per eye" with an exclusive connector so that they are ONLY available from Apple. ;)
I'd sure hope Apple wouldn't make custom lenses into a profit center. It would be a bad look to charge a ton for an accessibility feature, even if has an additional hardware component.
 
Not that long ago there were rumors about Apple employees fearing the launch would go bad because the product wasn’t ready. I wonder what happened. Anyway, I’m still not convinced about the use for this device for the average Joe. I’m open and willing to be surprised though so let’s wait and see.
 
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As far as 4K per eye goes, you have to be darn close to pick out pixels on a 4K 65” TV. I doubt you'd be able to distinguish anything other than the image in a headset.
I can pick out pixels on my 32" 4K display from 2ft away, and my eyesight is terrible. Considering these 4K screens are going to take up your entire field of vision, I don't see how 4K won't look low-res.
 
Meanwhile, he has a 72% accuracy. But yeah, he just had 1 correct prediction.
Reported accuracy % for these guys are complete nonsense... they're wrong all the time and people just forget when they change their story at the last minute to be right. Probably more like 0.72% accuracy.
 
Well this entire discussion is interesting but I wait and see what it has to offer and probably take a pass on it. 3K for something that gives AR no thanks
 
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I can pick out pixels on my 32" 4K display from 2ft away, and my eyesight is terrible. Considering these 4K screens are going to take up your entire field of vision, I don't see how 4K won't look low-res.
You can have 4k where the pixels are tiny with a larger space between them. Or you can have 4K where the pixels are larger and are not able to be seen as separate. It depends on the quality of panel. I’ll wait and see, but I challenge that 4K goggles will be low res.
 
Look forward to hearing about it. But highly skeptical all around. Use case, price, not working with (my) glasses, …just don’t see it happening.

Haven’t seen VR take off. Nor AR.

Still always excited to hear about a new Apple product.
With regards to glasses another product seems to have a solution https://www.tcl.com/global/en/glasses/tcl-nxtwear-g seems to have a solution when I first saw the picture of these I didn't see the brand and almost thought they looked good enough to be apple while the specs are lower the price reflects it and if apple specs are as good as they are rumoured then the price is appropriate with regards to sales there is quite a built up demand in certain sectors however the current offerings are either to specific or don't meet the needs at the price given and with all tech they are concerned about it being usable in 2-3 years for the price or that it will disappear like the google glass did. Apple will give them some certainty for the future
 
I see no one asking the most basic question which is: how is Apple going to properly demo something that really needs to be experienced in person? Sure they’ll have a bunch of snazzy videos and pictures. But what does 4K per eye actually look like in real life? I personally don’t want to go to an Apple Store and slap something on my face that hundreds of others wore on their oily foreheads before me.
Well, like many things these days, you can see what online reviewers (that you trust) are saying about it until you feel comfortable buying it (or not).
 
Most of Apple's customers won't be interested in daft headsets anyway. Every single one from every other company has failed to catch on.

I can't see many people paying 3 grand for the privilege of wearing a belt loaded with battery packs just to keep the thing running for more than 2 hours either.
I am not worried about the battery packs ... I think one of the most compelling use cases might be using it seated at a desk anyway, as a monitor replacement, in which case it might as well be wired.
 
I see no one asking the most basic question which is: how is Apple going to properly demo something that really needs to be experienced in person? Sure they’ll have a bunch of snazzy videos and pictures. But what does 4K per eye actually look like in real life? I personally don’t want to go to an Apple Store and slap something on my face that hundreds of others wore on their oily foreheads before me.
Nah, that's unimportant. I can't see vaccines either and they are still the best kind of medicine. None of Apple's hit products had amazing screens and fluent graphics out of the box. They always nailed the user interface first and improved the performance later. So the question that needs to be asked is: how and why to interact with virtual objects in a VR/AR environment? It's got its use case in engineering, but in a private or office environment? It's even boring as a movie.

 
You're right, but I think all of us suffer from difficulty in seeing how devices can change our lives. Before the iPhone I was content to carry an iPod and I hated phones with the "candy bar" form factor; I was all in on flip phones. I didn't see the point in "smart phones" - back then it was Blackberry and some other company or two with names I can no longer remember. Before the Apple Watch I despised having anything strapped to my wrist.

AR is something people have a harder time visualizing because not many have experienced it. For my part, I was so-so on the Apple headset until I bought a PlayStation VR2. It's my first foray into virtual reality, and part of its setup involves a sequence of establishing your "play area" so that you don't bump into things. This uses some relatively fuzzy-appearing outward-facing cameras so you can see outside of the headset, before the world in front of you fades away and is replaced with the virtual reality display and worlds. I have to tell you, that augmented reality sequence was magical. Virtual reality was impressive but also slightly disappointing (the PSVR2 uses 4k displays, but I feel like we need 8k displays to really make it feel impressive - and even then, it feels like VR in its current form will never be mainstream).

The augmented reality setup made me feel like it is augmented reality's time to shine. It may seem like a problem in search of a solution at first; there's more of a social stigma to overcome; and the comfort is really paramount, but if Sony could make its VR headset's startup sequence feel so magical, I trust Apple to absolutely wow people left and right with what's to come.
The PSVR2 displays are much less than 4K per eye and are a completely different type of display technology.
 
It's going to be fun revisiting some of these comments after the device is announced!
I feel like it will be a few years wait to revisit some of the dismissive comments as it wont be an overnight success. The apple watch took several years to get popular.
The device will be great for developing on but if I was looking at this as a consumer $700 would be my limit, not $3000.

As mentioned in other threads - day one purchase for my studio, given that XR is our thing.
 
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