If the Air has a 2nd ultra wide camera it can be priced at $100 higher but it will sell much better I think
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Kuo: High Demand for iPhone 17 Models, But Questions Remain About iPhone Air
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I'm one of the 0.1% who don't wear a case. And my dad too.
We've already ordered our iPhone Air.
I totally agree it's stupid to buy an iPhone Air and put it in a case.
We pay more just for thinness, lightness and design… a case cancels out all three of these things.
the air is such a TERRIBLE value. They got rid of the Plus due to low sales and replaced it with a smaller screen, smaller battery, one speaker, one camera and no mmwave... all for $100 more. all a way to keep pushing pro sales, especially for Plus users who now have to go for the Pro Max if they don't wanna downsize. Base 17 an AMAZING value tho
I believe that the only reason the Air is Ti is because of the strength to weight ratio and nothing more. Aluminum, steel, nor titanium feel any different in the hand other than what they weigh. Aluminum is what the Pro is using because it handles heat better and they wanted to move away from the glass sandwich for the Pro.
Someone who uses a case with their phones would probably still do so regardless of model.
iPhone Air + case will be a lot thinner and lighter than iPhone Pro Max + case.
I really want the air. I have no problem with the single camera, single speaker, or battery life. The only problem is they released it simultaneously with a phone that finally has good thermals. I always get the Pro phones but have been sorely disappointed when taking photos outside on warm sunny days. The heat just builds up too quickly and throttles/dims too much. If this Pro lineup was just a spec bump from last year, I would be all over the form factor of the Air. Now that I have the option for truly decent thermals (if the reports I've heard are true), I have to go for it.
My least of the concerns of the Air is the battery life, it's plenty enough for a rational and healthy usage.
My concern is more the price, the weight, the mono speaker and the camera. Assuming that there will be a second version next year, maybe they can fix some of those things for the second generation.
My concern is more the price, the weight, the mono speaker and the camera. Assuming that there will be a second version next year, maybe they can fix some of those things for the second generation.
Line line-up makes a lot of sense this year. The Standard iPhone looks amazing and it has all the newest features. It's the perfect iPhone for the most amount of people.
The Pro's this year are utilitarian workhouses that look a lot less flashy than in previous years and is aimed squarely for those who need higher specs.
I think the Air is meant for a more niche group and I do not think Apple really thought they would sell as many of those with lesser battery life.They are more hype models for the brand and they do look stunning. And they are getting a lot of the media attention as they were meant to.
One thing that stuck me in particular is that with the more utilitarian feel of the Pro Max, I did find it a little difficult to go from something as stunning as my 14 Pro Max which has not got a scratch without a case and looks just as amazing as they day I got, and go to a more scratch prone aluminum model that doesn't look anywhere as nice. But with a nice trade-in promotion I took the bait.
The Pro's this year are utilitarian workhouses that look a lot less flashy than in previous years and is aimed squarely for those who need higher specs.
I think the Air is meant for a more niche group and I do not think Apple really thought they would sell as many of those with lesser battery life.They are more hype models for the brand and they do look stunning. And they are getting a lot of the media attention as they were meant to.
One thing that stuck me in particular is that with the more utilitarian feel of the Pro Max, I did find it a little difficult to go from something as stunning as my 14 Pro Max which has not got a scratch without a case and looks just as amazing as they day I got, and go to a more scratch prone aluminum model that doesn't look anywhere as nice. But with a nice trade-in promotion I took the bait.
Optically, I like a lot about the Air; screen size, thickness, colors. Feels fresh. I imagine it definitely one of those once you hold you know scenarios. There’s just no way I could go from all the Pro line offers to an Air: too may trade offs I’m not (yet) at all willing to make. If I were a regular iPhone user, I’d be seriously tempted. But that $1k ppt feels a potential barrier. We’ll see.
The stat that stands out to me is the +60% YoY demand for 17 Max. That’s insane. I wonder how much of that is because the difference between 15 Pro Max and 16 Pro Max was so minimal that less peeps jumped on 16 Pro Max than 15 Pro Max. Anyway, I’m on iUP. This cycle marks the first time I’ve preordered a Max. I’ve long hovered, but always opted on the reg. My partner got a 15 Pro Max last year when she handed down her 13 to our 14 yo. So I’ve been able to see the Max in action. Interested to see what a year with a Max will yield? Come next year, will I stay Max? Will I go back to reg Pro? Will I be temped by the Phold? Forward ho!
Exactly. I'd wager £50 that if anyone walks into an Apple Store on Friday, the largest crowds will surround the Air.
I don't know where you are getting the info that it's lighter than a Mini. Apple says it's 5.82 oz on the Air and 4.97 oz on the 13 Mini. 15.7 % difference.
The 'Air' is going to be a rude awakening if you are a 13 Mini owner. There is no getting around the dimensions on a phone that is over 6" in height in your pocket. If you don't want to feel the phone like your current Mini you better bust out those JNCOs or get a fanny pack. The only modern option for Mini owners is the 16e as it is practically the same weight as the Air but the dimensions are smaller. This is my issue with the Air as its still a phone that the size is larger than a 16e and even a regular 17.
Same here and for all of those exact reasons. I did buy the MagSafe battery just in case, but we’ll see how it goes. So far the 16 Pro battery has been mostly fine for me, and if the Air is rated for the same lasting power, I should be fine.
I agree with that. However the new design/ luxury category will be for the beta testers ( iPhone Air and the iPhone Fold) which the those interested can be the first to try the new design/concept but miss out on certain things that you can only get with the pro. This is really interesting because this goes to show that if my theory is correct the Pro will not disappear anytime soon however it will no longer be the luxury device but as a true pro device. Apple basically did away with the Standard= cheap Pro = expensive/ luxury
Don’t know how many units Apple will be able to sell. I did not consider getting the Air as I would like to have a telephoto lens too. Also with the Air at $999, think many will pay the $100 extra and go for the Pro. Don’t find anything extra with the Air other than its slimness.
Personally, I want a small phone first. Had to give my 13 mini to my kid and got myself a 16. While the mini now feels tiny in comparison, the 16 still feels like a brick. Sure the battery of the mini is not as good, but that's a tradeoff I am willing to take. Unfortunately, the air doesn't have a smaller footprint, it's just slightly thinner.
i said that later in the thread. Everyone crying saying the Air is their savior and i’m some evil monster. The mini was the same for many other people.. I would have rather had a mini with better battery over a thinner large phone.
Yeah, so dumb that they didn't release a phone that is both thicker and heavier while using much lighter materials than last years 16 Pro Max...oh wait.
You don't want an air, don't buy it. But why are you complaining when Apple gave you exactly what you want?
