Kuo: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus to Feature 48-Megapixel Camera That Can Capture More Light

[spcopsmac21]

Wrong. What you describe only happens to lazy photographers unwilling to take the standard steps necessary for decent pix. Use decent lighting and hold the iPhone steady and you will get good pix.

And no, the iPhone 14 Pro does not require PERFECT lighting. But all image captures require decent technique and reasonable lighting. Certainly the form factor of phones does make achieving decent .technique more difficult

Lazy photographers 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This isn’t up to the same quality as my Nikon D3500. I understand that completely. But apple advertises this camera is easy to use. They advertise ANYONE can take AMAZING photographs and videos. They advertise a quick and simple snap of the camera that ANYONE can take great photographs.
When I edit or try to process any of my photos the photos taken with the 14PM are over processed, over saturated and fuzzy.
Maybe it’s just MY SPECIFIC camera module. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[scorpio vega]

Pro has more ram, capable of 4K pro res video recording if you have 256 storage and above. Pro models will get a boosted camera quality also not just the regular and the pro max might get telescopic lens. The pro might get faster USB-C speeds compared to the regular models we will have to see. I think the pro models also have better front cameras but I might be wrong. The pro also are rumored to have Wi-Fi 6E while the regular will be still have 6. There are many reasons to still get a pro model

What’s the main advantage of Wi-Fi 6e compared to Wi-Fi 6

 

[citysnaps]

Lazy photographers 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This isn’t up to the same quality as my Nikon D3500. I understand that completely. But apple advertises this camera is easy to use. They advertise ANYONE can take AMAZING photographs and videos. They advertise a quick and simple snap of the camera that ANYONE can take great photographs.
When I edit or try to process any of my photos the photos taken with the 14PM are over processed, over saturated and fuzzy.
Maybe it’s just MY SPECIFIC camera module. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

"Maybe it’s just MY SPECIFIC camera module."

Could be. I'm very happy with my 14 PM. Including making photos at night.

Consider having Apple look at it.

Also... since you have a Nikon dSLR, you probably are familiar with shooting and post-processing in RAW. Do you do the same with your iPhone? If not, you should to get the best results.



"They advertise ANYONE can take AMAZING photographs and videos."

The AMAZING videos and photos they show come from people that have the imagination, ability to see, and skill to *make* (not take) amazing videos and photos. As is always the case, that comes from the videographer/photographer.

There's a huge difference between taking a photograph and making a photograph. And that has very little to do with camera gear.

Thus, I never say, for example, "I took this photograph in San Francisco with an iPhone X." And instead say, "I made this photograph in San Francisco with an iPhone X."

 

[Lakersfan74]

What’s the main advantage of Wi-Fi 6e compared to Wi-Fi 6

6E supports the 6 GHz band while the 6 only supports 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz. The 6E is also capable of faster speeds and is more efficient. Wi-Fi 7 will be even better when it comes out in a few years if that.

I haven’t used 6E yet since I use ethernet for my computer, so I don’t know if I would notice a difference

 

[Chazak]

The 3GS wasn't $300, that was the two year contract subsidized price. It was $600 without it. Adjusted for inflation, that's around $850 today.

The plans weren't cheaper either. AT&T was charging $40/mo for the base voice plan, and then $30/mo for unlimited data, and another $5/mo for 200 text messages or $20/mo for unlimited texts. So you were realistically paying $90/mo plus tax for unlimited data and messaging. Even including the phone subsidy in those figures, it was much more expensive to have an iPhone in 2009 than it is today.

Good comment countering the freewheeling, embellishment style of so many here.

The old throw something up on the wall and say it like you know it to be fact then expect a 100% buy in.

My other favorite is when technophiles think they know how to run a multi-trillion dollar company. Being a good/mediocre/excellent coder, engineer or developer doesn't mean you know anything about running a company or large business finance.

 

[citysnaps]

My other favorite is when technophiles think they know how to run a multi-trillion dollar company. Being a good/mediocre/excellent coder, engineer or developer doesn't mean you know anything about running a company or large business finance.

Spot on. Especially for a company like Apple with 160,000+ employees, of which there were no massive layoffs, unlike other tech companies (google, Meta, PayPal, Microsoft, Amazon, Twitter, Salesforce) that laid off thousands.

 

[TechnoMonk]

Spot on. Especially for a company like Apple with 160,000+ employees, of which there were no massive layoffs, unlike other tech companies (google, Meta, PayPal, Microsoft, Amazon, Twitter, Salesforce) that laid off thousands.

fIrE TiM aPpLe. hE iS tErRiBle.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Lazy photographers 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This isn’t up to the same quality as my Nikon D3500. I understand that completely. But apple advertises this camera is easy to use. They advertise ANYONE can take AMAZING photographs and videos. They advertise a quick and simple snap of the camera that ANYONE can take great photographs.
When I edit or try to process any of my photos the photos taken with the 14PM are over processed, over saturated and fuzzy.
Maybe it’s just MY SPECIFIC camera module. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Either it is your SPECIFIC camera module or more likely your specific technique (the shouting is yours not mine). I have no comment on your beefs with Apple's advertising. But I can unequivocally state that the iPhone 14 Pro camera is capable of excellent images when properly used. The superb pix in Apple's marketing were shot on iPhones by real people.

Agreed iPhone pix often will not be up to D3500 quality A) because the D3500 is a stand-alone ILC with a real, substantive lens bigger than a fingernail and B) because any Nikon's camera ergonomics are far superior to any smart phone's camera ergonomics. What amazes me is how frequently iPhone 14 Pro pix are up to D3500 quality - - despite being captured via lenses the size of a fingernail.

The far better Nikon ergonomics help a lot in making good camera technique happen. Smart phone camera ergonomics are lousy, encouraging sloppy technique (poor lighting and not steady). Then the computational photgraphy algorithms kick in trying to fix the poor technique. Results present as over-processed, etc.

Apple marketing of course never suggests that good technique is necessary, but I assure you that all the great iPhone pix we see are due to good technique.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

The 48MP camera are useless. My 14PM takes worse photos than my 13PPm in most scenarios, and the raw mode is a joke, no significant more detail, maybe more colors, but detail, nope. Just a gimmick from Apple.

Properly shot 14PM pix are better than the same pix properly shot with 13PM. If your mileage varies it is due to technique. And RAW is not a joke or a gimmick just because you fail to understand it; those who do not want RAW may choose not to use it.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

"Maybe it’s just MY SPECIFIC camera module."

Could be. I'm very happy with my 14 PM. Including making photos at night.

Consider having Apple look at it.

Also... since you have a Nikon dSLR, you probably are familiar with shooting and post-processing in RAW. Do you do the same with your iPhone? If not, you should to get the best results.



"They advertise ANYONE can take AMAZING photographs and videos."

The AMAZING videos and photos they show come from people that have the imagination, ability to see, and skill to *make* (not take) amazing videos and photos. As is always the case, that comes from the videographer/photographer.

There's a huge difference between taking a photograph and making a photograph. And that has very little to do with camera gear.

Thus, I never say, for example, "I took this photograph in San Francisco with an iPhone X." And instead say, "I made this photograph in San Francisco with an iPhone X."

Beautiful pic. Thanks for sharing.

 

[kkee]

Lol. Mind blown. Sorry but when the mighty 3GS dropped it was a game changer for like $300. Now, 20 years later the screen is bigger and plans are more expensive.. but the entry price just doesn’t match the features to me.

Give me an iOS fold the way only apple knows how and I’ll get onboard.

I get the operating model though. Consistent slow updates, maintain value and brand and keep it churning.

I just wish it had the magic where we would reinvent every few generations.

Don’t get me wrong still my favourite phone I can buy but surely a trillion dollar company can capture the imagination better than I can.

iPhone matures, but there is something new in horizon. Do you see the vision? It is so pro...

 

[ItsMeMicke]

48MP sounds good. I would shoot in 12MP most times for better low light performance (pixel binning). But, I assume iPhone 15 wont be supporting ProRaw?

 

[SoldOnApple]

So the entry level model's storage will suffice for ... 3 photos?

It'll combine pixels for smaller photos and probably default to HEIC. I wish the Pro cameras had 96MP cameras so we could crop twice as much while still having full quality. Whenever I ask client for a photo they always take it way stepped back and after cropping you end up with a fairly low resolution photo.

 

[citysnaps]

Beautiful pic. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you for the kind words - I really appreciate it.

I guess the point I was trying to make is that iPhones are very capable cameras. Not for all types of photography, say professional sports, auto racing, professional portraiture, wedding photography (though I have seen a professional wedding photographer produce outstanding and beautiful reportage style B&W wedding photos using just an iPhone), etc.

But for 90+% of Apple customer needs they are great cameras. And in the right hands of someone who is really into photography and making photographs, they can produce outstanding results.

 

[svish]

Good to hear that the base models get a camera upgrade this year

 

[HackMacDaddy]

It’s a high end fast computer in your pocket. Compare the price to other computers. It’s a bargain.

Well, compare it to the MacBook Air M1...

 

[Deadeyeshark]

If 48mp goes to normal 15’s they will sell like crazy! People think they want the 48mp, as I did. After 6 months with my 14 Pro I barely ever use it and that has nothing to do with space. In most photos you will barely see a difference, I am completely underwhelmed by it. Apple really pushed it this year like it’s a breakthrough but I just don’t see a massive difference. When printing it out (which most people don’t these days) or zooming in and crops maybe, a little. But otherwise absolutely not.

I have 14pro and hardly ever use 48mp mainly due to the enormous file size and the limits of 2tb iCloud. If Apple do bring 48mp to the standard I phone they will likely need to bump up the top tier iCloud storage.

 

[kiranmk2]

Pro has more ram, capable of 4K pro res video recording if you have 256 storage and above. Pro models will get a boosted camera quality also not just the regular and the pro max might get telescopic lens. The pro might get faster USB-C speeds compared to the regular models we will have to see. I think the pro models also have better front cameras but I might be wrong. The pro also are rumored to have Wi-Fi 6E while the regular will be still have 6. There are many reasons to still get a pro model

There are reasons to buy a Pro, but none of them are of interest to me. I tried a 13/14 Pro and couldn't see the difference of Promotion (I can see the difference on an iPad Pro's larger screen), I have no interest in Pro Res video. The only things that might make me spend the extra are the periscope camera (but only on the smaller Pro) and if the A17 chip somehow massively better than the A16 (not just 10-15% faster).

Also, I may be wrong but I was under the impression that both 14 and 14pro ranges both have 6 GB RAM.

 

[redbeard331]

Lazy photographers 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This isn’t up to the same quality as my Nikon D3500. I understand that completely. But apple advertises this camera is easy to use. They advertise ANYONE can take AMAZING photographs and videos. They advertise a quick and simple snap of the camera that ANYONE can take great photographs.
When I edit or try to process any of my photos the photos taken with the 14PM are over processed, over saturated and fuzzy.
Maybe it’s just MY SPECIFIC camera module. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hate to say it, but this thread is a perfect example of what really soured my desire to get involved in certain photography communities. Just so much snobbery and rudeness for no reason at all. You’d think there was a red dot on every iPhone sold nowadays 🔴.

I have done side by side testing with an iPhone and my 3 year old midrange Samsung at night, and the Samsung literally blows the iPhone away. Far more detail, far more accurate colors (iPhone makes everything look jaundiced), and no muddy looking weirdness in the Samsung pics. Of course, Samsung used to make their own cameras as well and were pretty advanced for their time.

This isn’t to say the iPhone is bad in all situations, in daylight pictures are good, and video is even better. It seems Apple has really put their effort over the years into video quality over still images.

There’s been complaints for years and years about the iPhone producing images with a watercolor effect, some describing it as being muddy, over sharpened, whatever. Clearly there’s something going on that is affecting these images and even shooting raw doesn’t completely fix it.

I guess MKBHD is just another lazy photographer as well.😹😹

 

[triton100]

Well, compare it to the MacBook Air M1...

The MacBook Air doesn’t have a phone and can’t fit into your pocket. Smaller technology always costs more

 

[snarton]

I originally read this as meaning that the iPhone 15 would come with a Foveon-like sensor, which stacked red, green, and blue-sensitive layers on top of each other rather than using color filters in a Bayer pattern...

That's what I thought of too. I had the Sigma SD9 and loved the image quality when there was good light.

 

[_Spinn_]

I expected the Pro features to trickle down at some point.

 

[spcopsmac21]

I hate to say it, but this thread is a perfect example of what really soured my desire to get involved in certain photography communities. Just so much snobbery and rudeness for no reason at all. You’d think there was a red dot on every iPhone sold nowadays 🔴.

I have done side by side testing with an iPhone and my 3 year old midrange Samsung at night, and the Samsung literally blows the iPhone away. Far more detail, far more accurate colors (iPhone makes everything look jaundiced), and no muddy looking weirdness in the Samsung pics. Of course, Samsung used to make their own cameras as well and were pretty advanced for their time.

This isn’t to say the iPhone is bad in all situations, in daylight pictures are good, and video is even better. It seems Apple has really put their effort over the years into video quality over still images.

There’s been complaints for years and years about the iPhone producing images with a watercolor effect, some describing it as being muddy, over sharpened, whatever. Clearly there’s something going on that is affecting these images and even shooting raw doesn’t completely fix it.

I guess MKBHD is just another lazy photographer as well.😹😹

Haha thank you. Couldn’t agree more.

 

[spcopsmac21]

"Maybe it’s just MY SPECIFIC camera module."

Could be. I'm very happy with my 14 PM. Including making photos at night.

Consider having Apple look at it.

Also... since you have a Nikon dSLR, you probably are familiar with shooting and post-processing in RAW. Do you do the same with your iPhone? If not, you should to get the best results.



"They advertise ANYONE can take AMAZING photographs and videos."

The AMAZING videos and photos they show come from people that have the imagination, ability to see, and skill to *make* (not take) amazing videos and photos. As is always the case, that comes from the videographer/photographer.

There's a huge difference between taking a photograph and making a photograph. And that has very little to do with camera gear.

Thus, I never say, for example, "I took this photograph in San Francisco with an iPhone X." And instead say, "I made this photograph in San Francisco with an iPhone X."

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"Maybe it’s just MY SPECIFIC camera module."

Could be. I'm very happy with my 14 PM. Including making photos at night.

Consider having Apple look at it.

Also... since you have a Nikon dSLR, you probably are familiar with shooting and post-processing in RAW. Do you do the same with your iPhone? If not, you should to get the best results.



"They advertise ANYONE can take AMAZING photographs and videos."

The AMAZING videos and photos they show come from people that have the imagination, ability to see, and skill to *make* (not take) amazing videos and photos. As is always the case, that comes from the videographer/photographer.

There's a huge difference between taking a photograph and making a photograph. And that has very little to do with camera gear.

Thus, I never say, for example, "I took this photograph in San Francisco with an iPhone X." And instead say, "I made this photograph in San Francisco with an iPhone X."

Apple HAS looked at it. Twice.
They replaced nothing and told me to restore my phone. I wish there was an emoji for brown nosing. I guess even an award winning National Geographic published photographer can be told by some with the most washed out shifted black and white photograph they don’t know how to “ make “ a photograph

 

[spcopsmac21]

Either it is your SPECIFIC camera module or more likely your specific technique (the shouting is yours not mine). I have no comment on your beefs with Apple's advertising. But I can unequivocally state that the iPhone 14 Pro camera is capable of excellent images when properly used. The superb pix in Apple's marketing were shot on iPhones by real people.

Agreed iPhone pix often will not be up to D3500 quality A) because the D3500 is a stand-alone ILC with a real, substantive lens bigger than a fingernail and B) because any Nikon's camera ergonomics are far superior to any smart phone's camera ergonomics. What amazes me is how frequently iPhone 14 Pro pix are up to D3500 quality - - despite being captured via lenses the size of a fingernail.

The far better Nikon ergonomics help a lot in making good camera technique happen. Smart phone camera ergonomics are lousy, encouraging sloppy technique (poor lighting and not steady). Then the computational photgraphy algorithms kick in trying to fix the poor technique. Results present as over-processed, etc.

Apple marketing of course never suggests that good technique is necessary, but I assure you that all the great iPhone pix we see are due to good technique.