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Kuo: mmWave 5G iPhones Have 'Potential Delay Risk,' Production on 6.7-Inch iPhone Delayed to October
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I’d like to buy a new iPhone every year even if it doesn’t really make sense.
Hope is not the 6.7” getting exclusive features, like the plus models in the past, the cause of the complication. Unless is the LIDAR...
I think it’s obvious Apple will incorporate the majority of their newest technology into the largest/most expensive iPhone. Think about it, it’s the same trajectory they have always used with technology in there more expensive iPads, MacBooks, AirPods, etc. They want consumers to spend their money on their most expensive product, and of course the 6.7 iPhone won’t shy away from not including those features, where the models below the 6.7 inch iPhone won’t include some of those features. The reason being, if Apple would include a lot of the same features in the same iPhone models, then that would detract away from consumers spending their money on the most expensive iPhone, which is why Apple wants to use those features as a ‘lure‘ to persuade the consumer to buy the most expensive iPhone, which will be the 6.7 inch.
I think the answers are, crazy high speed, and plain old WiFi works only where you have login access (there's tons of WiFi around but it's nearly all private networks), whereas if your provider carpets the city with mmWave cells, then presumably you get that crazy high speed everywhere.
Personally, I'm in no big hurry to move on from LTE. More interested in all the other new (to me) features of the 12, especially the potential smaller one.
I suspect they could delay this by years before it has any real impact on user experience. The only reason to try to ship anything right now is pure data sheet envy...
One counter example amidst the many other delivered? And btw, that’s likely still happening.
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They sold something like 230M iPhone 6 at the peak of iPhone volume, but with new ASPs, 212M would be all time iPhone revenues.
I hope its true, but I am skeptical of any order whispers. Apple‘s supply chain has proven over and over to be nearly impossible to gauge.
Personally, I am not worried about demand for Apple products in the medium to long term, particularly with likely record services incoming. Even short term, plenty of people are still working at home and most of the high earners can do so. Even those who can’t will never give up their phones and might even spend their stimulus checks on them.
I thought about buying this year's iPhone but I think I might wait till 2021 as a new Mac is a higher priority for me at the moment.
The article is saying not even going into production until October - usually iPhones launching in September will go into production in June, so this might not be available until January, even!
I totally don’t think this will happen. The 6.1” Pro will definitely get same redesign. The question that I keep asking however is if only the Pro models will get the redesign and not the non Pro models, which for the first time, is something I’m seriously considering as a possibility.
I've always thought that was likely to be the case - in the same way the X was a redesign, but the 8 and 8 plus carried on with the previous design. New design debuts on top model(s), then trickles down to the rest of the lineup over time. Just going OLED and gaining 5G plus a new smaller size will probably be considered quite a big deal for the 12 and (12 plus?) over the 11.
Yes, and in a marketing perspective, it makes sense for every tier to have its own separate design language, like as you mentioned with the SE, to differentiate between the models more clearly. iPhone Pro and iPad Pro Models will share the exact design, and with the rumor of the iPad Air getting an all screen design, that would be better matched with the non pro iPhone 12 design, while the low cost iPad would retain top and bottom bezels as well as the home button like the SE.
I wouldn’t buy a 5G-enabled phone unless it gives me the option to disable 5G. Hopefully that’ll be baked into the new iOS.
This was a feature when the LTE iPhones came out.
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You do realize most iPhones don't really start assembly until 2-3 weeks before the date they go on sale? Even if they started production on 10/1, we could still have stock available in stores by end of October.
Apple isn't stockpile producing these for months in advance. That's why we rarely get tangible supply chain leaks until very close to the actual announcement.
Verizon with have "Sub 6" 5G at later date using DSS ( Dynamic Spectrum Sharing ) . My guess is that it would go along side with iPhone 5G launches.
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I still think it only make sense to not launch iPhone with mmWave support at all. Especially considering the amount of internal space it takes, and splitting the lineup into mmWave and non-mmWave or only 6.7" gets mmWave and 6.1" gets nothing isn't very Apple like line up.
But then Ming seems to be sure of this mmWave happening. So I guess Apple intends to push forward for whatever reason. 802.11ay ( mmWave for WiFi ) is done but it doesn't seems Qualcomm or Broadcom has a readily available solution on offer, so that rule out the possibility.
I thought about launching carrier specific model for mmWave, but that is even more messy and is like back into CDMA era.
I guess we will have to wait and see how this get played.
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Bigger screen, smaller bezels, smaller notch, 120Hz refresh, better cameras with bigger sensors/lower noise/lidar autofocus/hardware stabilization/sensor-shift , new design, 20% CPU speed improvement, faster wireless charging, 3D lidar scanner, faster faceid, landscape faceid, pixel shift for super-hi-res, more RAM.
I suspect whatever small number of 6.7” iPhones get produced will be allocated to iPhone upgrade program participants in the first instance. Apple is going to need to ramp up that production pipeline quickly if they want to make the most of the holiday season sales.
honestly, they can totally skip on the 5G thing this year and no one will notice. For most of the world there are no 5G coverage, and using 5G does not change any of your phone experience. You will only notice it when downloading GBs of files which I am assuming the Tweeters and Instagramers are not doing.
Sincerely,
5G User
Sincerely,
5G User
Yeah, but aside from that is there any real change?
P.S. Haven't seen you around in a while - glad you're back (if that's the case).
Disabling 5G was a feature when LTE came out?
Just kidding. I know the option exists for LTE; I just hope they extend it to 5G
I think there are a variety of reasons (even more so than LTE) why people would preferring having this option.
Isn’t there supposed to be a public C band auction, in December, that will include a significant amount midband spectrum (300 MHz before a 20 Mhz buffer)? I seriously doubt Verizon would sit that one out like they did with the 600 MHz band...
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Haven’t gone anywhere. I make a couple of posts a day, but only if I have something to say