Sounds like we’ll see Intel 10th gen MacBooks in June. 14”, 16”, and Air. Just in time for back to school deal.
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Kuo: New MacBook Pro and MacBook Air Models With Scissor Keyboards to Launch in Second Quarter
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Four. Long. Years. This was one stubborn business decision, Apple. I held off, and my 13” 2015 MBP continues to chug along quite nicely. It’s slower than I’d like, but the keyboard is still flawless. I’ve been waiting for a scissor-style replacement. June, at last!
Concurrent with the 14" mini LED, or separate?
If it changes keyboards I can't see it not getting marginally larger at the same time i.e 14.1 inches, but maybe that update is now, matching the 16", and they both get mini LED at the same time later?
If it was all at once, the 14" Mini LED, I'd probably be all in, would be expensive season. If not, not sure if I want to wait anymore, finally a great upgrade but I also want that sexy new screen tech...
If it changes keyboards I can't see it not getting marginally larger at the same time i.e 14.1 inches, but maybe that update is now, matching the 16", and they both get mini LED at the same time later?
If it was all at once, the 14" Mini LED, I'd probably be all in, would be expensive season. If not, not sure if I want to wait anymore, finally a great upgrade but I also want that sexy new screen tech...
So April, May or June (WWDC assuming it goes ahead in some format)... I wonder if this was always the plan or if recent events have pushed the schedule back? I would have thought Apple would be more focused on software at WWDC if it's meant to be the launch of a big Arm transition effort, so more likely between now and May...
He has said the iMac Pro will get a refresh this year so stands to reason so will the iMac, but the base TDP on the K-Series 10th Gen Core CPUs is higher (125W vs. 95W) and can clear 300W under extreme overclock so cooling might be an issue. So Apple might stick with the 65W models or we'll likely see throttling on the K-series unless Apple under clocks them.
WWDC's focus is software, but Apple has announced hardware at WWDC's in the past during the keynote (since the media is present).
Yes, I was just noting that for this WWDC in particular, presumably they will be launching the Arm transition/ new version of MacOS so probably have a lot more to talk about with that. Therefore there's less time for any hardware announcements to be made (outside of maybe a preview of an Arm machine to launch later in the year). If they're quick and simple updates to existing products I would expect them to be made available with a press release when ready, freeing up the focus for software at WWDC - as they did last year with the week of announcements so they could focus on launching Apple Arcade, TV+, Card etc at the March event.
I hope it’s before June 10th. My daughter graduates HS, and I’m planning on getting her a new MBP for grad gift (to replace a 2013 MBP).
I’m still on the 2013 because I wasn’t going to upgrade to a new one with the butterfly mechanism. Thank goodness they’ve finally come around.
"Kuo expects .. models to have various cost optimizations, but he said users will not notice any difference." Ha ha, does this mean it will be cheaper to manufacture, but the price will remain the same? LOL, but remember the days when Steve Jobs used to drop the price when introducing a new product? Drop the price, and the stock will go back up!
Dang. I really want the 14" MBP to use in conjunction with my 5K iMac now that I work from home full-time. But it's probably for the best with all the craziness in the world right now. It's just one thing after another and all my market gains from the past few years have been wiped out now.
Where did you get a 27-foot iMac?
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Same. I’m accidentally screwing up my brightness and volume all the time, & it’s either doing that or it’s not showing the basic controls I wantand I have to mess around to get them. Simple customizable non-touch version, plus a MagSafe connector, make it a flush 3dot job like the iPad Pro has, and a Catalina that doesn’t crash/hang/panic on a daily basis, would make me a lot less frustrated with this extremely expensive feature-light machine.
??? both MBP and MBA refreshed or updated annually. MBA missed one year but at least MBP never missed annaul updates.
The 16” MacBook Pro was the first to have been introduced since the new scissor keyboard has been available. The smaller MBP, currently with a 13” display, is rumored to be undergoing a similar redesign with the next refresh. So a bump to 14”, along with the scissor keyboard.
The 13” MacBook Air is also reportedly receiving the new keyboard, but there are no rumors of a change in display size. So apparently it will remain 13”, which is not necessarily surprising: the lowest cost model keeping the smallest screen.
A 14" MBP with the keyboard from the 16" and updated CPU/GPU would be just the ticket, provided they double the RAM and storage as Apple did with the 16".
New "tip" suggests a new MacBook Air next week: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-macbook-air-possible-as-early-as-next-week.2226467/
Well that tip was spot on, just need a tip for the MBP now release now!
Hopefully soon. Love this 2018 MBP generally, but the keyboard alone has me ready to throw it out the window. Hopefully I can hold out until then.
Thought about getting the 16", but I'm not willing to pay for the dedicated graphics. Otherwise I probably would have gone for that.
You’re not paying anything at all for the dedicated graphics. The $2,399 base model 16” has 16GB and 512GB SSD. That config is $2,199 on the 13”. Add $200 for the screen upgrade and you’re at $2,399.
That means that not only is the dedicated GPU free, also free is the upgrade from a 28W quad-core 2.4/4.1GHz CPU (or the 15W quad-core 1.7/4.5GHz) to a 45W 6-core 2.6/4.5GHz CPU. That’s a big difference.
The base 16” MBP is a great deal.
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You're throwing this "free" word around, but the fact is I don't need the larger screen or dedicated GPU (which obviously is somewhere in the price difference. dGPUs can get quite expensive, although less so for mobile variants). I'd get absolutely nothing from either of those things, which makes that $200 flushed down the toilet. I'd rather save my money, and get hardware which for me is essentially equivalent.
Also note that you're comparing two processor generations, with the old generation still being sold at the same price it was being sold at two years ago (when the hardware was released), which isn't a fair comparison. Today, an 8th gen CPU-based MacBook Pro should be a bit cheaper than what Apple's selling that for. Plus, the newer 13 inch (which should be released soon) will actually have newer components than the 16 inch, which currently has a 9th-gen CPU and 802.11ac, further incentivizing a purchase once it's out, and likely increasing its value to make it more valuable than the 16 inch, especially considering the fact that it will most likely maintain its cheaper price point.
Intel formally announced the Comet Lake H CPUs the 16" MBP uses today so we should see an update by the end of the year - https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-6-and-turbo-boost-speeds-above-5ghz.2229192/
The dGPU is certainly in Apple’s cost, but it’s not currently reflected in the price. I don’t expect the 14” to change much with respect to pricing, though at least the $1,799 model will probably increase to 512GB base, which effectively is a $200 price cut. It’ll probably still be WiFi 5.