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So these new SSD results are with two of them in RAID? The speeds seem slower than what I would have expected if that is the case. Did you try with just one SSD?
 
i would have expected a slightly better performance from the SSDs vs the 7200rpm drives..

I guess thats why they have an SSD version on the way...the 7200 drive setup is apparently maxing out this config anyway..
 
So these new SSD results are with two of them in RAID? The speeds seem slower than what I would have expected if that is the case. Did you try with just one SSD?

Yes, Raid 0, with block sizes from 64K to 256K. These are also just 64GB SSDs. And whoops, I forgot to try just one SSD!

I wonder if I had used Crucial's (or any manufacturer's) 256GB model, if speeds would have been better. Not to mention this is all going to/from one 6Gbps SSD on my Mac Mini. Won't that, theoretically, max out before the two SSDs in RAID 0? I need to re-learn how to create ramdisks!
 
Maybe you could try Xbench? I'm not sure exactly how its disk test works, but I think it figures out a drive's speed without having to copy from one drive to another.
 
Maybe you could try Xbench? I'm not sure exactly how its disk test works, but I think it figures out a drive's speed without having to copy from one drive to another.

I was just going to let pros like Anandtech do the heavy benchmarking. I just wanted to get some semi-real world data.

Though in a NON-real world scenario :), I did create a ramdisk and the drive did perform better.

TO the drive was not much better. 194MB/s
FR the drive was the best it's been at 248MB/s.
 
If the SSD speeds are correct, it's pretty disappointing, particularly given the price of the box. That's about what a single SATA III SSD should be able to pull off without RAID 0.
 
If the SSD speeds are correct, it's pretty disappointing, particularly given the price of the box. That's about what a single SATA III SSD should be able to pull off without RAID 0.

Hellhammer,

Any chance it's the lower quantity of NAND on the 64GB SSDs? In other words, more NAND = greater throughput?
 
I was just going to let pros like Anandtech do the heavy benchmarking. I just wanted to get some semi-real world data.

It looks like Anandtech was waiting for you to benchmark it :D

Xbench is super simple to run and only takes a minute or two, so if you are interested it would be worth trying out. You can have it just run the disk tests.
 
Hellhammer,

Any chance it's the lower quantity of NAND on the 64GB SSDs? In other words, more NAND = greater throughput?

Crucial m4 64GB vs 256GB

There is definitely a loss in especially write performance with lower capacities (less dies) but the figures you got are still much slower. The read speeds for a single SSD should be as high as 500MB/s (incompressible), so in RAID 0 config we should be looking at much higher speeds than 250MB/s, even if the interface was SATA 3Gb/s.

It looks like Anandtech was waiting for you to benchmark it :D

Nah. Anand hasn't received his unit yet so this was just to report the early tests. Always great when you get exclusives like this ;) And yes, I wrote it if that is what you're wondering.
 
It looks like Anandtech was waiting for you to benchmark it :D

Xbench is super simple to run and only takes a minute or two, so if you are interested it would be worth trying out. You can have it just run the disk tests.

Ok, here ya go!

Results 341.32

System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.7.1 (11B2118)
Physical RAM 8192 MB
Model Macmini5,3
Drive Type 128GB SSD RAID

Disk Test 341.32
Sequential 210.81
Uncached Write 402.43 247.08 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 284.99 161.25 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 89.07 26.07 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 570.34 286.65 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Random 896.02
Uncached Write 1192.90 126.28 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 417.83 133.76 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 2011.12 14.25 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 1359.97 252.35 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 
Uncached Write 402.43 247.08 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 284.99 161.25 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 89.07 26.07 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 570.34 286.65 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Random 896.02
Uncached Write 1192.90 126.28 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 417.83 133.76 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 2011.12 14.25 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 1359.97 252.35 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Well that looks good, no matter what it is :D
 
Well that looks good, no matter what it is :D

Eh, not very good for RAIDed SSDs. The 4k reads are almost identical to what I get with one FW800 128GB SSD (my other speeds are considerably lower, but that's because of the FW800).
 
Eh, not very good for RAIDed SSDs. The 4k reads are almost identical to what I get with one FW800 128GB SSD (my other speeds are considerably lower, but that's because of the FW800).

I have FW800 raid and it doesn't look anything like that.

But of course this is an ongoing thing. There's perhaps problems with this.

Mind you, I have bought one of these so i'm inclined to like it :D

Also, from all the glowing reports about Lacie gear I'm just glad it still works after a day ;)
 
I think this new information has inspired me to either wait until LaCie officially releases their SSD version or to go with a Pegasus instead.
 
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Hopefully, given the price, Anand's results are better than mine.
 
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Hopefully, given the price, Anand's results are better than mine.

Is it possible that those figures show the behaviour of two SATA 1.5Gb/s interfaces? :eek: There must be something wrong...
What kind of chipset and/or firmware was choosen by LaCie?
This "Time Machine" is pointing to the ancient history!!! :D
 
Is it possible that those figures show the behaviour of two SATA 1.5Gb/s interfaces? :eek: There must be something wrong...
What kind of chipset and/or firmware was choosen by LaCie?
This "Time Machine" is pointing to the ancient history!!! :D

Well, both stock drives are only 3Gbps. Who knows? Maybe LaCie's SSD release will have a different chipset entirely?

My money's on me screwing something up.
 
Well, both stock drives are only 3Gbps. Who knows? Maybe LaCie's SSD release will have a different chipset entirely?

My money's on me screwing something up.

Too many secrets around this "thunderbolt beast"...
 
LaCie specifically lists their SSD model as being 6Gbps, so that one should be more impressive.
 
LaCie specifically lists their SSD model as being 6Gbps, so that one should be more impressive.

Yes, but LaCie also declares read trasfer rate of 480MB/s and write of 245MB/s.
You can easily obtain this throughput with 2 sata 3Gbps interfaces and 2 "not so new" SSDs. A new SINGLE Corsair Force GT SSD with sata 6Gbps reach 555MB/s read and 525MB/s write.
Moreover LaCie asks $900 for the 240GB model (2x120). That's too much for a software raid box.
I'm not so impressed for this product but for it's price...:rolleyes:
 
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