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sgtaylor5

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Since the start of my business in 2012, I've been on the search for desktop business accounting software. I have used QuickBooks Pro 2013 for Windows for many years because QB is all that will be recommended to you by an American accountant. I have had my difficulties with QB over the years, mostly with upselling efforts, and lack of customer support if I ran into a really difficult problem. Switched to a Mac in 2018 and bought QB Pro for Mac 2016. Much better and far more streamlined than the Windows version. But I didn't want to pay another $180 - $300 for a newer copy (2019 R7 and higher) that would run on Catalina. I specifically don't, on principle, use any feature that would require me to buy another copy in three years.

I've looked at AccountEdge, MoneyWorks, all of the cloud offerings (don't want to use anything that I have to pay rent to access my financial data - who owns my company then??) and I felt stuck.

I had found Corona by R. Charles Flickinger and tried it a couple of years ago and couldn't make sense of it. Very hard to find that program on the internet. I'm posting this here to try to give him some exposure. I tried it in August and I understood how it worked after about a week of working with it. He had made many improvements since then. We exchanged many very long emails and I don't think I need his help now. I printed out the manual at a copy shop, double-sided. He's nice to work with.

Corona has some quirks, but not many. If you have multiple bank accounts, I think you would have to make multiple company files. They are very fast loading, however. Invoices are the best way to enter customer data; Sales receipts (cash entries) don't exist like they do in QB. There is a Cash screen, but I only use it to move AR pending entries to the Bank account. If you have a cash register, that's where you'd use the Cash screen the most. Credit card entries are made in the General section with journal entries.

Corona is much faster to use in daily life than QB ever was. My needs are simpler than they were when I initially setup my business and I was able to trim my account list greatly. I don't have to wade through the raft of inactive accounts, customers and vendors.

my 2c.
 
Since the start of my business in 2012, I've been on the search for desktop business accounting software. I have used QuickBooks Pro 2013 for Windows for many years because QB is all that will be recommended to you by an American accountant. I have had my difficulties with QB over the years, mostly with upselling efforts, and lack of customer support if I ran into a really difficult problem. Switched to a Mac in 2018 and bought QB Pro for Mac 2016. Much better and far more streamlined than the Windows version. But I didn't want to pay another $180 - $300 for a newer copy (2019 R7 and higher) that would run on Catalina. I specifically don't, on principle, use any feature that would require me to buy another copy in three years.

I've looked at AccountEdge, MoneyWorks, all of the cloud offerings (don't want to use anything that I have to pay rent to access my financial data - who owns my company then??) and I felt stuck.

I had found Corona by R. Charles Flickinger and tried it a couple of years ago and couldn't make sense of it. Very hard to find that program on the internet. I'm posting this here to try to give him some exposure. I tried it in August and I understood how it worked after about a week of working with it. He had made many improvements since then. We exchanged many very long emails and I don't think I need his help now. I printed out the manual at a copy shop, double-sided. He's nice to work with.

Corona has some quirks, but not many. If you have multiple bank accounts, I think you would have to make multiple company files. They are very fast loading, however. Invoices are the best way to enter customer data; Sales receipts (cash entries) don't exist like they do in QB. There is a Cash screen, but I only use it to move AR pending entries to the Bank account. If you have a cash register, that's where you'd use the Cash screen the most. Credit card entries are made in the General section with journal entries.

Corona is much faster to use in daily life than QB ever was. My needs are simpler than they were when I initially setup my business and I was able to trim my account list greatly. I don't have to wade through the raft of inactive accounts, customers and vendors.

my 2c.
look at Xero - its awesome and may work for you.
 
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Xero is cloud accounting; you may own the rights to your financial data stored there, but if you quit paying the subscription fee, then you don't have access to your data anymore. Who owns your company in that case if you can't get to your accounts?
 
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Xero is cloud accounting; you may own the rights to your financial data stored there, but if you quit paying the subscription fee, then you don't have access to your data anymore. Who owns your company

yes it is but my accountant has full live visibility the accounts, I am able to export and view all sorts of information and all the bank feeds are live too.

its worth every penny on the subscription fee to me, and I always have my financial records anyway so I am unsure why it is an issue? Not hard to export data from Xero either.
 
Everyone has their needs, and I can see that yours are different than mine. Glad you have a system that works for you.

I've never needed for my accountant to see into my accounts; all she needs are my year end reports because I'm a one man business.

For a long time I needed to keep my subscription costs down to a minimum and I didn't have the income to spend that much every month on accounting software.
 
Have you considered just using Excel? Since it's a one person shop. It'll probably take care of your accounting needs. It takes a while to format your initial spreadsheets. I find it's way faster than accounting software.

The only reports I need to run are minimal. Just to get the data for filling out my taxes and whatever the state requires. Unless you're running a bunch of reports for yourself.

The toughest part of Excel for this is learning some advanced functions. Which can be annoying. But that's something you really just have to learn and do once. After that it's just a matter of inputting transactions. As it'll calculate everything if you properly configure the spreadsheets.

I couldn't stand Quickbooks. I tried using it for quite a while. It was just way too slow and laden with advertising. I just wish the 90's DOS version of Peachtree Accounting was available for Mac. It was way better than Quickbooks. Just make your journal entries in Excel and import them.
 
I just caved in and paid for the desktop version of Quickbooks for Mac 2 days ago. Like the OP, I want my data to be mine and mine alone. $399 plus tax is a little hard to swallow. But affordable if I don’t have to deal with subscriptions and being web dependent.

I’ve been using Quicken Home & Business, and just plain Quicken for the past 30 plus years after giving up on trying to learn Peachtree. It’s been a solid platform though I don’t care for their moves towards syncing to everything via the web. Not interested in that.

But I want to move away from using Windows and virtual machines, so I’m taking the leap to move to QB for Mac solely to be rid of Windows on my Macs. Not looking forward to the learning curve. So far, very little is similar to the Quicken products I’m used to.

FWIW, I’m running multiple checking accounts for two small businesses. Approximately 20 employees. Hopefully I chose the right software... time will tell.
 
I could use a spreadsheet, but I'm not good at math. I do have a solution, and it's called Corona, referenced above.

I've found that I do like relational databases (which Corona is) to handle my accounting, and here's why. The main lists have your transactions. The lists of vendors, customers, parts only are in their lists. Everywhere else these side lists are referenced it's a pointer to the side list record. Change the entry in the side list and it appears changed everywhere else. If I were to call a certain customer Sam Jones one place and Samuel Jones in another place, they'd be essentially two customers, right? I'd have to be so careful when entering data. There's probably a way to do that in Excel, wouldn't there be? I'm fairly sure I wouldn't know how to do that.
 
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I just caved in and paid for the desktop version of Quickbooks for Mac 2 days ago. Like the OP, I want my data to be mine and mine alone. $399 plus tax is a little hard to swallow. But affordable if I don’t have to deal with subscriptions and being web dependent.

I’ve been using Quicken Home & Business, and just plain Quicken for the past 30 plus years after giving up on trying to learn Peachtree. It’s been a solid platform though I don’t care for their moves towards syncing to everything via the web. Not interested in that.

But I want to move away from using Windows and virtual machines, so I’m taking the leap to move to QB for Mac solely to be rid of Windows on my Macs. Not looking forward to the learning curve. So far, very little is similar to the Quicken products I’m used to.

FWIW, I’m running multiple checking accounts for two small businesses. Approximately 20 employees. Hopefully I chose the right software... time will tell.

If you want reports any way you want them, QuickBooks is much better than Quicken.
 
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This is my first post. I’m mostly a reader but had to chime in here...as a business owner myself, one man show, I’m tired of seeing small guys waste tons of money on accounting software. Monthly fees add up quickly. I’ve tried everything out there including spreadsheets until I found manager.io
It’s dead simple non bloated accounting and best of all the desktop version is FREE!
If you want the cloud version it’s one fee per month and not tiered like most other software.
Check it out, I’m very happy with it so far.

edit: I forgot to mention I am in no way affiliated with manager just user looking to help others.
 
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Thanks for mentioning manager.io. I found that program on the internet way easier than Corona. My experience surely was a case of YMMV: couldn't understand how to set it up and I tried and tried, and that's on me, not manager.io.

Worth a try. But, I do like Corona and my accounting has found a new home.
 
SG Taylor
If you want reports any way you want them, QuickBooks is much better than Quicken.
SG Taylor,
How do you like the Mac version of QB. Have been wishing to move from the PC version as I am so tired of VMWare and the printer. Update the Mac and the printer will not work in QB. I have been waiting for a good version of QB for Mac!
Thanks
 
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SG Taylor,
How do you like the Mac version of QB. Have been wishing to move from the PC version as I am so tired of VMWare and the printer. Update the Mac and the printer will not work in QB. I have been waiting for a good version of QB for Mac!
Thanks

You could go to the online version of Quickbooks. Then it won't matter what OS you are running. Plus you'll have access to everything on mobile devices. Another nice part of the QB Online is it connects to many banks and credit cards to download transactions at no additional charge. Which I remember my bank wanted a substantial fee for the same feature on the desktop version of Quickbooks.

You can also look at an alternative like Xero.
 
SG Taylor

SG Taylor,
How do you like the Mac version of QB. Have been wishing to move from the PC version as I am so tired of VMWare and the printer. Update the Mac and the printer will not work in QB. I have been waiting for a good version of QB for Mac!
Thanks

I liked the Mac version of QB a lot better than the comparable Windows version (2016 of each). Everything I hated about the Windows version was fixed in the Mac version. I couldn't stand the added price of upgrading; that was when I hadn't finalized on Mojave. Never had any printer problems, either.

I don't upgrade QB for the sake of upgrading, and I studiously avoid using any feature that needs updating to continue to work.
 
@sgtaylor5, do you know whether or not a trial version of Corona exists?

Also a one-man show here with a handful of clients, personal assets, etc. My accountant recommended Quickbooks because that's what he is using with all his other clients. So far, I'm using an assortment of Excel spreadsheets for creating invoices, manually recording payments and expenses, and creating the reports for my accountant at the end of the tax year. If there was an easier way I certainly wouldn't mind spending money on good software but Quickbooks is too powerful and too expensive for a one-man show with but a handful of regular clients like me.
 
@sgtaylor5, do you know whether or not a trial version of Corona exists?

Also a one-man show here with a handful of clients, personal assets, etc. My accountant recommended Quickbooks because that's what he is using with all his other clients. So far, I'm using an assortment of Excel spreadsheets for creating invoices, manually recording payments and expenses, and creating the reports for my accountant at the end of the tax year. If there was an easier way I certainly wouldn't mind spending money on good software but Quickbooks is too powerful and too expensive for a one-man show with but a handful of regular clients like me.
https://www.designersdomain.com/Corona/Support/Support.html

on this site you will see corona has a 30 day trial period.
 
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