Larger or Smaller Touchscreen Device from Apple?

[infowarfare]

Newton cometh...wifi and bluetooth for web access with your 3G in your pocket. My speculation anyway...

I really wish people would stop speculating on a new Newton... the iPhone and the iPod Touch IS the Newton replacement. About the same size and form factor but way more advanced and everything you just mentioned (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.) is already there.

If Apple does release another touch based device, it will either be a Tablet (12 or 13 inch multitouch screen possibly called the Macbook Touch) or a smaller cheaper iPhone nano, but a Newton is already what the iPhone is. In other words, to be clear, the iPhone is the evolutionary descendant of the Newton. How much different could a new Newton be than what the iPhone already is?

 

[Tallest Skil]

...a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! That means square...

Why? The iPhone's 3.5" screen isn't 1.75" square...

 

[dizastor]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only!

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

Why does 4 inch mean 2x2 square???

I would think it's measured diagonally, the same way all screens have been measured for 30 years... Widescreen, four inches from bottom right corner to upper left corner.

 

[GroundLoop]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only!

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

More like 2.65" x 3". The 4" refers to the diagonal...not 4sqare inches in area.

Hickman

 

[moesker007]

I really wish people would stop speculating on a new Newton... the iPhone and the iPod Touch IS the Newton replacement. About the same size and form factor but way more advanced and everything you just mentioned (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.) is already there.

If Apple does release another touch based device, it will either be a Tablet (12 or 13 inch multitouch screen possibly called the Macbook Touch) or a smaller cheaper iPhone nano, but a Newton is already what the iPhone is. In other words, to be clear, the iPhone is the evolutionary descendant of the Newton. How much different could a new Newton be than what the iPhone already is?

I agree 100%.

 

[Hard-Hat-Mac]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only!

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

They measure screen size via diagonal screen measurement. your 32' TV etc. device it's self would probably be 3 x 4.5

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only!

no, you're mixing up area with diagonals.

a"^2+b"^2=4"^2 if the screen is 4".

So a^2+b^2=16

2 by 2 wouldn't work because that would be 4+4=8.

And they're probably rounding to 4.

I'd say it's closer to... 2x3.5 which would be... 4+12.25=16.25... square root is ... 4.03 which they round down to 4".

So 4" diagonally is probably about 2" by 3.5".

Looks like Apple will have some interesting new gadgets to show off...

 

[wakerider017]

"Larger or smaller..."

"50-50 chance..."

This site is starting to sound like my local weatherman!

 

[Leopard=God]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only!

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

I find this to be hilarious 4" refers to the diagonal length of the screen not the area of the screen. So if it were to be 4" diagonally, this new device would have a screen slightly larger than the current iPhone's. My guess is that they will be releasing a remote that can be paired up with the Apple TV that would use that screen. For what? No clue.

 

[abijnk]

You know, I am all about the rumor-mongering and everything, but these reports are starting to be so all over the place it makes me wonder if Apple really IS putting out false information to stir the pot...

 

[sfroom]

A 50-50 chance -- talk about hedging your bets. Shaw Wu is really going out on a limb this time! There's a 50-50 chance of anything happening, either it does or it doesn't.

Your logic is not correct. 50-50 does not mean "anything can happen", it means that it's EQUALLY likely to happen as it is to not happen.

If I told you they were releasing 20 GHZ Mac Pro's with 64 GB of ram for $999 tomorrow, would you tell me "There's a 50-50 chance"?

If you had asked someone yesterday what the chances were Apple would be releasing a 7" touchscreen device, most people would have said "0%". Saying 50-50 is saying a lot...the writer is clearly going out on a limb, indicating it's fairly likely we might see this device.

However, I'm not sure I believe him.

 

[Ugg]

A 50-50 chance -- talk about hedging your bets. Shaw Wu is really going out on a limb this time! There's a 50-50 chance of anything happening, either it does or it doesn't.

Hey! It's a binary world, what do you expect!

 

[rckstwrz]

I really wish people would stop speculating on a new Newton... the iPhone and the iPod Touch IS the Newton replacement. About the same size and form factor but way more advanced and everything you just mentioned (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.) is already there.

If Apple does release another touch based device, it will either be a Tablet (12 or 13 inch multitouch screen possibly called the Macbook Touch) or a smaller cheaper iPhone nano, but a Newton is already what the iPhone is. In other words, to be clear, the iPhone is the evolutionary descendant of the Newton. How much different could a new Newton be than what the iPhone already is?

I completely agree with you. It would be completely un-Apple to re-release the Newton. I think a MacBook Touch is far more likely, maybe not next week, but within the next couple years.

On that note, remember how long rumors circulated about the iPhone? I think the earliest post I found just by Googling it was from 2004. I wonder if the whole Mac Tablet idea won't bear any fruit for a few more years.

 

[Leopard=God]

You know, I am all about the rumor-mongering and everything, but these reports are starting to be so all over the place is makes me wonder if Apple really IS putting out false information to stir the pot...

How would Apple benefit from that? I think we've had this discussion before. It's not like "Hey everyone let's release information on a product that's better than the one we're actually making so people can get their hopes up and then get letdown when the device actually comes out" That would be the most retarded business strategy ever. If they were trying to get more people to attend WWDC that would make sense but I'm pretty sure they don't have a problem with participation. I think it's just Apple working on prototypes for future products that will come out after WWDC not any time soon. I wish these rumors would stop popping up considering that only the iPhone 2 will be released at WWDC (or at least that's what I think)

 

[mainstreetmark]

I'm a self-certified expert in shady photographs, and I can say, in my self-certified expert opinion that they are in fact the same size. Only, one is farther away.

End of discussion.

See ya'll on monday.

 

[moveteam]

You know, I am all about the rumor-mongering and everything, but these reports are starting to be so all over the place it makes me wonder if Apple really IS putting out false information to stir the pot...

Yeaah:

iPhone thinner 3G, GPS, video
iPhone thicker 3G, GPS
iPhone thicker 3G
iPhoner thinner nothing
iPhone sligthly thinner than the first rumoured thicker iPhone
iPhone 4"
iPhone/Newton 7"

OMG

 

[moveteam]

How would Apple benefit from that? I think we've had this discussion before. It's not like "Hey everyone let's release information on a product that's better than the one we're actually making so people can get their hopes up and then get letdown when the device actually comes out" That would be the most retarded business strategy ever. If they were trying to get more people to attend WWDC that would make sense but I'm pretty sure they don't have a problem with participation. I think it's just Apple working on prototypes for future products that will come out after WWDC not any time soon. I wish these rumors would stop popping up considering that only the iPhone 2 will be released at WWDC (or at least that's what I think)

Think about it, yesterday a rumor turned up which claimed the iPhone would only has 3G as an addition, if all expect that we will get surprised in a positive way when we figure out it has 3G, GPS, video etc.

 

[hueyproductions]

nothing about 4 inches means square OR 2x2.

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only!

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

Um, that's not what that means, actually. Might wanna touch up on your Pythagorean theorem buddy.

 

[ppdix]

I want my 7" iPad!!!!!!!

:d

 

[Full of Win]

I'll believe it when I see it. I'd assume they would have a special event for this or do it in January 09 and not take away from the buzz that will be the version 2 iPhone.

 

[slick50zd1]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only!

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

Idk where you came up with that but screens are measured Diagonally, so assuming a 4 inch screen with the same aspect ratio as the iPhone, 4 inches diagonal would translate into roughly 2.2 x 3.3 inches

(x^2 + y^2 = z^2; y = 1.5x) In this case Z is either 4 or 7

Applying the same formula to the rumored larger 7 in diagonal version we get approx 3.9 x 5.85 inches

Its important to note that with a different aspect ratio these numbers would change (as seen I used 1.5:1). a square however would provide the greatest visible area.... hmm

 

[NT1440]

i feel like at this point I cant even stand anymore of the rumors, yea they are fun but i have this knot in my stomach everytime a new rumor surfaces. I think im going to stop reading the rumors if i can. Hell, im not even interested in the friggin phone and i cant stop myself from wondering.

 

[dgdosen]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only!

I find it ironic that someone quoting Einstein can't even figure our the length of the hypotenuse of a right triangle...

2 x 2?

let's see: a squared + b squared = c squared
- or 4 + 4 = 8

so the size of the screen on your 2 x 2 device is ~2.8, not 4. Whatever happened to no child left behind?

 

[FunkyJunk]

a square however would provide the greatest visible area.... hmm

No, it wouldn't. Did everyone here skip geometry class to get high under the bleachers?

 

[Donz0r]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only!

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

Um... 4 inches diagonal is not 2in x 2 in, more like 3x3 if it's a square. The current iPhone has a 3.5 inch screen...