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My recommendation, If you don’t really need a new iPhone don’t buy one I would say. If you have an iPhone X to 12, keep it until it stops getting iOS updates. Yes, some will say, it’s your freedom, right and money. But it’s just my opinion.

Thats some good advice except a lot of people have a hard on for latest new shiny ios devices.
 
Your comments made me wonder if Apple would do something like next year on the iPhones released they have a similar chip to this year and do upgrades in other ways

Like how they went from series 4 and series 5 Apple Watch without much of a chip difference
who knows? rumors are suggesting that TSMC 3nm production start will not occur til H2 22, which would be too late for iPhone, iPhone design is typically frozen ~ Jan/Feb for Sep release ...
 
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You know it’s bad when BMW is making cars without a touchscreen..

Renault continue offering touchscreen panels, but as an option (for an extra 500€) on some models, whereas before it was included. From what I hear they had more issues with the GPS modules shortages, so some of their modern cars cannot geolocate themselves. However, they still support CarPlay & Android Auto, so not such a big deal.
 
Thats some good advice except a lot of people have a hard on for latest new shiny ios devices.
Yep but the 13 ProMax gave me things I hoped for in my 12 ProMax including long promised 1TB of memory and some important to me camera features that allow me to leave my DSLR home in many more situations. So my phone is reaching the point I could be happy for several years before I go back and upgrade at which time the old phone is a trusty spare. So I might be able to resist in 2022 unless…….. LOL
 
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who knows? rumors are suggesting that TSMC 3nm production start will not occur til H2 22, which would be too late for iPhone, iPhone design is typically frozen ~ Jan/Feb for Sep release ...
Another good reason to skip the 14 and stick with my 13 ProMax 1TB. ;-). Wait for the 15 seems to be a more and more reasonable plan for 2022!
 
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I wonder if China is having issues with shortages in making chips or is it everyone else?
 
who knows? rumors are suggesting that TSMC 3nm production start will not occur til H2 22, which would be too late for iPhone, iPhone design is typically frozen ~ Jan/Feb for Sep release ...
And really… other than pro phone for professionals doing professional work… does the common person really need the blazing fast Axx newest processor? Apple even said themselves “nobody compares” to our chips.
 
I believe there WAS a chip shortage at some point, but now the supply chain middlemen are using this excuse to limit the product and price gouge. Greed doesn’t benefit anyone and it hurts the people at the bottom the most.
 
Graphics cards being unavailable is also likely due to crypto miners. That is not going to change over time.

Collision between one of the largest increases in GPU performance for gamers and crypto mining.
 
Renault continue offering touchscreen panels, but as an option (for an extra 500€) on some models, whereas before it was included. From what I hear they had more issues with the GPS modules shortages, so some of their modern cars cannot geolocate themselves. However, they still support CarPlay & Android Auto, so not such a big deal.
It’s still good to have a backup gps in case something happens with your phone. I would not buy a car that can’t locate itself without a phone.
 
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I wonder if China is having issues with shortages in making chips or is it everyone else?
It’s everyone, demand is higher than sully… “chios” are made in all geographies with Asia being where almost all of the packaging is done
 
Another good reason to skip the 14 and stick with my 13 ProMax 1TB. ;-). Wait for the 15 seems to be a more and more reasonable plan for 2022!
Could be, and I’m still planning to get a 13ProMax before years end, but what if the 14 would introduce better cameras and possible even real optical zoom???
We’ll just have to wait :cool:
 
And really… other than pro phone for professionals doing professional work… does the common person really need the blazing fast Axx newest processor? Apple even said themselves “nobody compares” to our chips.
True, for me as a hobbyist photographer the processor is important for photo/video, for your “average” apps, not so much.
Gaming is also a different story but I don’t care about that
 
Unclear how “keep your device for as long as possible” relates at all to the chip shortage. Otherwise, I agree it’s sound and prudent advice for all seasons.
If you bought an iPhone 12 Pro Max last year and you are casual user, don’t bother upgrading to the 13 Pro Max when someone coming from say an iPhone 6 Plus who would need the phone more than you because their device is old and broken. But you the 12 Pro Max bought the 13 Pro Max that could have been of better use to user with the older device that’s no longer supported and no longer getting updates.
 
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I would not buy a car that can’t locate itself without a phone.
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Major iPhone supplier Foxconn says that it expects the ongoing chip shortage to continue well into the second half of next year, prolonging struggles of manufacturers, including Apple, to keep up with consumer demand, The Wall Street Journal reports.

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Apple has been dealing with the chip shortage for the past several quarters, but it only started significantly impacting Apple’s business in the most recent quarter. The shortage of specific components and production constraints related to the ongoing public health crisis have impacted iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, and Mac availability. Apple said that this past quarter, the shortages cost it $6 billion, and it expects the impact to be even more significant for the holiday season.

Foxconn is Apple's largest supplier for the iPhone, and while some reports suggest that production is improving, it's still a length away from being entirely normal. As the holiday season approaches, Apple is encouraging customers to get their holiday orders in early to ensure they receive them in time for the holidays, and the company has provided "order by" dates for some of its most popular products.

Article Link: Largest iPhone Supplier Says Chip Shortage to Drag Into Second Half of 2022
Not only chips...
I work in Industrial automation, right now there's shortage of most electrical items, even as bad as a delay of 6 months.
It starts to bite, no layoffs yet, but it's affecting businesses here in Europe.
 
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I don't think that there really is a chip shortage they are just holding back so they can drive the price up.
 
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If you bought an iPhone 12 Pro Max last year and you are casual user, don’t bother upgrading to the 13 Pro Max when someone coming from say an iPhone 6 Plus who would need the phone more than you because their device is old and broken. But you the 12 Pro Max bought the 13 Pro Max that could have been of better use to user with the older device that’s no longer supported and no longer getting updates.

I'm sorry but this is a nonsensical explanation. We're not talking about Rick Blaine's exit visas, a desperate flight out of Kabul, or lunch with Warren Buffett. Everyone who wants an Apple device can and will get one. If you are in line behind someone else, you'll just wait a few more weeks than they will. On top of that, if you decide not to upgrade from the iPhone 12, you are not giving your phone to an iPhone 6 owner. It goes to the next person in line, who could very well be another iPhone 12 owner.
 
While there is a small amount of price gouging occurring, that isn't the cause for most of the issues. At least from what I'm seeing it is occurring in scenarios where a particular component is unavailable for at least a very long time, and maybe never, and a merchant may have 10K of them so they jack up the price by 10x knowing they are the only option. Of course the laws of supply and demand still exist, so prices are generally up across the board, but extreme price increases are unusual.

Companies will design products with readily available components. If a particular manufacturer is artificially restricting supply, companies will not use their components. So it's doesn't make sense for a manufacturer to intentionally create scarcity, at least not in the long term.
 
Could be, and I’m still planning to get a 13ProMax before years end, but what if the 14 would introduce better cameras and possible even real optical zoom???
We’ll just have to wait :cool:
Yep there always is that possibility
 
There's little to no hoarding - chip manufacturers are pretty savvy about who is or could be hoarding and are not averse if needed to redirect supplies to where there's a better outcome to be had. Most chip manufacturers don't actually make their own chips but get them made by so-called foundary companies, like TSMC, Global and so on. The foundaries aren't hoarding as they simply have nowhere to hoard, and don't get paid for non-delivered orders.

The manufacturers aren't hoarding either - they don't get paid until they ship, but they still have to pay the foundary companies on time. It's similar for those who do make some or all of their own chips, which frankly isn't many these days.

It's also NOT a chip shortage - just about everybody is making more - way more - than they ever have in terms of volumes. There's no shortage of chips, but there IS a MASSIVE excess of demand.

The auto companies are in the poo with chip shortages in very large part because when they stopped building cars at the start of the pandemic they cancelled most/all future orders, including for chips. The chip production capacity that was going to be used to make parts for the auto makers was taken up quickly by other sectors - laptops, routers, 5G etc etc etc as people set up home working and 5G roll-out accelerated. The auto guys were advised to still keep the orders on the books, but they didn't, thinking, I suspect, that their traditional power to dictate to some degree would ensure they got what they wanted, when they wanted it. Well, that is a strategy built on hope, and those strategies are normally crap...

Many foundary companies are fully booked through 2022 and beyond, and as quickly as they're adding new capacity, that capacity is already maxed out. Demand continues to grow faster than capacity can, and it's going to stay that way at least until the middle of 2022 at the earliest. Throw in the fact that the more complex devices & process nodes require longer to fabricate, with at least 16 weeks of lead time, that puts us in to late 2022. AT THE EARLIEST.

Everybody is trying to increase capacity. The companies that construct fabs and the equipment that goes in to them are already working at capacity. The makers of the equipment that makes chips are also hit by problems in getting chips - ironically!

This isn't going to be fixed quickly, even if somebody had an infinite amount of money. Laws of physics and the time taken to train somebody to suitable competence etc don't care about how much money is available.

TSMC isn't alone in putting up their prices - far less to do with price gouging and far more to do with the fact that THEIR costs from their suppliers have gone up hugely too. If this was about price gouging you'd see everybody in the industry posting much bigger increases (or any increases!) in profits than they currently are.
 
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