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If MM/the cloud thing were free, many more people would use it, get hooked and be locked into the Apple thing. As it is, "no one's" happy with it.
 
For the early queued...

I hope the people already in line for the keynote understand they're there to hear Steve Jobs speak, not buy him. ;)
 
According to my original post:

iCloud = $25/year
iCloud + MobileMe = $99/year


Sorry, I meant "iCloud + MobileMe" will be priced more aggressively. (I think all of Apple's cloud services will be rebranded as iCloud.)
 
If the new notification system turns out to be a silly little black bar then ones got to wonder what the heck they have been doing for the last year...they need to freshen up the interface...its 4 years old!!

If you are a mac user You know that Apple doesn't change things drastically. They are making improvements and UI changes unobtrusively.
But iOS 5 as a major update, must contain more than just notifications and iCloud support. Otherwise it'll be the year of waiting for nothing. And another year of using a stupid update. But I don't think so.
Remember the other major version updates:

In 2: There were Apps and AppStore.
In 3: Cut, Copy paste, MMS and Push Notifications.
In 4: iBook, iAds, FaceTime and Multitasking.

In 5: twitter integration, Better notifications, iCloud... WTF?

All of those are services, there must be an App. There must be something bigger- let's hope for Widgets
 
Sorry, I meant "iCloud + MobileMe" will be priced more aggressively. (I think all of Apple's cloud services will be rebranded as iCloud.)
The only MobileMe service that iCloud is replacing is iDisk.

In other words, one can have either MobileMe + iDisk (now known as iCloud) for $99 or just iDisk (now known as iCloud) for $25. Most people will care solely about iCloud, which is priced aggressively at $25/year.
 
If you are a mac user You know that Apple doesn't change things drastically. They are making improvements and UI changes unobtrusively.
But iOS 5 as a major update, must contain more than just notifications and iCloud support. Otherwise it'll be the year of waiting for nothing. And another year of using a stupid update. But I don't think so.
Remember the other major version updates:

In 2: There were Apps and AppStore.
In 3: Cut, Copy paste, MMS and Push Notifications.
In 4: iBook, iAds, FaceTime and Multitasking.

In 5: twitter integration, Better notifications, iCloud... WTF?

All of those are services, there must be an App. There must be something bigger- let's hope for Widgets

My point exactly :)
 
They are in SF and they are in line for an event that they already have tickets for.

YOU ARE IN THE CITY BY THE BAY HAVE SOME DAMN REAL FUN!!! I would kill to be in SF for the night then go to WWDC in the morning.

I know. Sad isn't it. Waiting in line on a cold Sunday night when they could be warming their cockles in any number of nearby bars, eateries, etc. I weep for today's youth.
 
The only MobileMe service that iCloud is replacing is iDisk.

Apple called iCloud their "cloud services offering," in the press release, which would suggest what is now mobileme will fit under it. The logo, which has appropriated the MobileMe cloud, suggests this as well.

In other words, one can have either MobileMe + iDisk (now known as iCloud) for $99 or just iDisk (now known as iCloud) for $25. Most people will care solely about iCloud, which is priced aggressively at $25/year.

But what if you want MobileMe's Calendar and Bookmarks sync? You have to pay $99? I don't see that. However you slice it, splitting up iCloud and MobileMe isn't straightforward. I think they will overhaul it all.

Tomorrow will be interesting, that's for sure!
 
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My last minute thoughts:

- Lion
- iOS 5
- iCloud
- Revamped MobileMe for $99/year (incl. iCloud)
- Rebranded iDisk as iCloud for $25/year
- No @icloud.com addresses
- Dead iSync
- iCloud syncing taking over most of the iTunes bloat
- iTunes 11 for, um, tunes
- iWork '11
- June 14th, Lion launch via MAS
- Lion physical media launch 2-4 weeks later

- Spotify competitor in iCloud. I think this would be an awesome idea. It's not often a company get rights to all the big four. Apple could turn this into a music streaming killer. Spotify and other competitors doesn't even have rights to all the big ones.

I'd rather pay $10 monthly and gain access to millions of tracks, rather than buying single songs and albums and sync them to my devices.
 
Apple better bring it or I'm done with em.

There are a lot of people that share your feelings. As a very long time customer I'm sad to say I'm close to feeling as you do. As a software engineer, I'm happy I work in a cross platform environment. I feel as though Apples new direction is forcing us to dumb down or switch platforms. iOS is fine and has it's place. But to compromise OS X in the process, is a decision Apple may regret.
 
Apple called iCloud their "cloud services offering," in the press release, which would suggest what is now mobileme will fit under it. The logo, which has appropriated the MobileMe cloud, suggests this as well.



But what if you want MobileMe's Calendar and Bookmarks sync? You have to pay $99? I don't see that. However you slice it, splitting up iCloud and MobileMe isn't straightforward. I think they will overhaul it all.

Tomorrow will be interesting, that's for sure!
Obviously, Bookmarks/Calendar/Contacts/Photos/Music/Apps/Settings syncing is going to be part of iCloud, hence services (again, for just $25/year).
 
I think that iCloud will not be an internet service. Think about this, it is about music. I think that iCloud will be a port built into Macbooks that will produce fog when you add dry ice. Next year, they will upgrade this with iLightShow.

PS. iThink iMight be drunk.
 
I think that iCloud will not be an internet service. Think about this, it is about music. I think that iCloud will be a port built into Macbooks that will produce fog when you add dry ice. Next year, they will upgrade this with iLightShow.

PS. iThink I might be drunk.

Not drunk enough if you still can think.
 
Obviously, Bookmarks/Calendar/Contacts/Photos/Music/Apps/Settings syncing is going to be part of iCloud, hence services (again, for just $25/year).

The MobileMe portion seems overpriced, then. $74 for the Web Calendar and Email? I say $25, too.
 
Obviously, Bookmarks/Calendar/Contacts/Photos/Music/Apps/Settings syncing is going to be part of iCloud, hence services (again, for just $25/year).

That makes sense and sounds good. The problem lies in the fact that common sense is not always applied when Apple makes decisions.
 
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