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Last Minute Thoughts on iCloud, iOS 5 as Keynote Line Begins

The icloud logo seems to be superimposed over a brushed metal power button (very similar to the power button on the MBP) - something to do with the cloud being always on?

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ChrisH3677 said:
1) Do away with the need for iOS devices to sync to a computer. Ever.
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For many years... you had stuff on your computer that you would sync to your device. That was easy to comprehend.

But where does the computer belong... if you've got a device and the cloud?

You'll eventually end up with 3 copies of your stuff.

Apple better have a big helping of magic to make the general public understand how it will all work.
 
Winni said:
Yes, you wouldn't need a real computer anymore. And yes, you would be 100% dependent on Apple and their terms of use.
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And you are not today? What exactly has changed?

Hueyfreeman said:
They are in SF and they are in line for an event that they already have tickets for.

YOU ARE IN THE CITY BY THE BAY HAVE SOME DAMN REAL FUN!!! I would kill to be in SF for the night then go to WWDC in the morning.
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One word: Overflow rooms
 
Michael Scrip said:
For many years... you had stuff on your computer that you would sync to your device. That was easy to comprehend.

But where does the computer belong... if you've got a device and the cloud?

You'll eventually end up with 3 copies of your stuff.

Apple better have a big helping of magic to make the general public understand how it will all work.
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It's not exactly hard. All your devices have the same stuff on. Change a file on your Mac and it will automatically be updated on your iPhone :confused:

If that's how it's gonna work anyway, we still don't really know.
 
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That camera app probably has twitter et al sharing built in. Nothing too controversial there.
 
Looking forward to the keynote - lots of unknowns (sort of) for once. I'm keen to know the details of iCloud and iOS5 - glad I held off buying a Time Capsule if they are going to be refreshed with new features. Passive over the air syncing of the iPhone camera roll to iCloud etc would be cool, as well as Twitter integration, although I don't tend to post much myself (tend to use FB for that).

So yeah.. some final clarity on all the rumours flying around the past few weeks will be very welcome!!

Finally - Lion available after the keynote via Mac app store?
 
Narrie said:
- Spotify competitor in iCloud. I think this would be an awesome idea. It's not often a company get rights to all the big four. Apple could turn this into a music streaming killer. Spotify and other competitors doesn't even have rights to all the big ones.
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And that's what's worrying me - there is some discussion as to whether Apple has effectively been blocking Spotify from the US market due to their (Apple's) dominance within the music industry.

Apple can thereby monopolise the online music market. Right now I have a MBP and an Android phone, so I can listen to music (Spotify) on both. Apple kills Spotify then I lose to mobile music options (and no, Google and Amazon's services are not available outside the US).

Everyone that remembers the monopolistic MS practices of the 90s should be worried about how Apple is applying some of the same approach. Granted, with more style, but still it harms the consumer, who is, IMO, best served with 2-3 high quality platforms - be it OS, mobile, music, HW or whatever.
 
Azathoth said:
And that's what's worrying me - there is some discussion as to whether Apple has effectively been blocking Spotify from the US market due to their (Apple's) dominance within the music industry.
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The music industry has been blocking Spotify because it would destroy it should it ever become the mainstream and dominant model.
 
hollerz said:
It's not exactly hard. All your devices have the same stuff on. Change a file on your Mac and it will automatically be updated on your iPhone :confused:

If that's how it's gonna work anyway, we still don't really know.
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If the files are small... it wouldn't be a bother.

But it gets trickier with large files... like photos, for instance. If you dump a couple hundred megabytes of photos onto your Mac... how long will it take to get them to the cloud and then to your iPhone?
 
I made an account for the sole purpose of posting this:
If indeed iTunes is to be replaced, and OTA syncing is the way of the future, and no longer is the device tethered to a computer, then it logically follows that the service cannot in fact be a paid one. Therefore, if iCloud is going to be a paid service, there still needs to be wired syncing.
 
People are waiting in line, in the dark? Sheesh. They need hobbies, or women, or something.

Using iCloud to make Apple products autonomous of PCs makes sense. I wonder if it will increase sales: everyone with a PC (almost everyone) doesn't need iCloud.
 
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In the last second before WWDC start, what I think about the new iOS 5 is that, it might only support the new iPhone 5 that might have a larger screen, and the extra screen is use by the the iOS system for extra feature, not use by three party apps.
 
I'm pretty sure that the queueing is to ensure a decent spot for Jobs' speech, rather than simply to gain entry at all.
 
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