Late 2011 MBP 13" SSD in optibay or HDD bay

Kenc1103

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I will be putting in an OCZ Vertex 3 SSD in my late 2011 MBP 13" in a few days, wondering if I should put it in the optibay or HDD bay as they both support 6Gb/s? Will there be any SMS issue if putting in the optibay?
 
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As the optical disk drive (ODD) slot does not use SMS, I would (and am using in a 2009 MBP) the HDD bay for the HDD, as that keeps the SMS intact and the ODD by for the SSD.
 

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As the optical disk drive (ODD) slot does not use SMS, I would (and am using in a 2009 MBP) the HDD bay for the HDD, as that keeps the SMS intact and the ODD by for the SSD.
so, with this set up (I also have a mid 09 mbp), are you able to use the ssd as the boot drive without having to hold down option to select it?
 

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Actually, I don't think it's optimal to keep the HDD in the original position, even though you will be losing SMS. Putting the SSD in the HDD location and the HDD in the optibay is the optimal setup.

Look at this article. This was setup in how in the configuration that's being suggested above. However, problems were encountered since the computer doesn't look at the optibay drive first upon waking up.
http://lifehacker.com/5541774/how-to-install-a-solid+state-drive-in-your-macbook

Update: It seems that connecting the SSD to the optical drive slot will give you problems waking from sleep, since the MacBook doesn't look to that SATA port for your main drive. I did not notice this before, as I don't sleep my computer. So, instead of installing your SSD in the Optibay, you'll want to disconnect your regular hard drive, install the SSD in that slot, and then install your old drive in the Optibay and continue as written.
I am in the middle of doing this upgrade and I will be doing this switch. I am weary about the loss of the SMS but I don't want to encounter any potential drive accessibility problems.
 
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Actually, I don't think it's optimal to keep the HDD in the original position, even though you will be losing SMS. Putting the SSD in the HDD location and the HDD in the optibay is the optimal setup.

Look at this article. This was setup in how in the configuration that's being suggested above. However, problems were encountered since the computer doesn't look at the optibay drive first upon waking up.
http://lifehacker.com/5541774/how-to-install-a-solid+state-drive-in-your-macbook



I am in the middle of doing this upgrade and I will be doing this switch. I am weary about the loss of the SMS but I don't want to encounter any potential drive accessibility problems.
I didn't have any wake issues, the only slow down I experience is due to the password I have to enter, thus opening the lid and entering the password and pressing Enter and being able to use the Mac might take five seconds. My old iBook was three seconds faster than that, but I guess, that is just the advantage of a newer OS on Intel hardware.
 

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I didn't have any wake issues, the only slow down I experience is due to the password I have to enter, thus opening the lid and entering the password and pressing Enter and being able to use the Mac might take five seconds. My old iBook was three seconds faster than that, but I guess, that is just the advantage of a newer OS on Intel hardware.
Hmmm.. My HDD actually has FileVault2 turned on so I do have to enter my password every time it wakes from sleep, restart, etc. But, I just realized that if I don't use this disk as my "main" drive, decryption will never happen and I won't be able to access my files on that drive. I guess I'll have to format and then put the files back in. Unless, it's not necessary?

Anyway, I'm glad you didn't have any wake issues. This configuration is optimal I think. Especially since the SSD has no moving parts and won't really benefit from the SMS. Maybe it's MBP model specific?
 
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Hmmm.. My HDD actually has FileVault2 turned on so I do have to enter my password every time it wakes from sleep, restart, etc. But, I just realized that if I don't use this disk as my "main" drive, decryption will never happen and I won't be able to access my files on that drive. I guess I'll have to format and then put the files back in. Unless, it's not necessary?

Anyway, I'm glad you didn't have any wake issues. This configuration is optimal I think. Especially since the SSD has no moving parts and won't really benefit from the SMS. Maybe it's MBP model specific?
I don't know about the FileVault question, as I don't use it.
And as to the SMS issue, I use 10.6.8 on a 2009 MBP with a Vertex 3 SSD and a Momentus 7200.4 HDD. Maybe it is the combination?
I only have this config since 11/2011, but it hasn't crapped out on me.
 

Kenc1103

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I got my OCZ Vertex 3 SSD put in the HDD bay today, it has been running ok so far. Now my question is the Vertex 3 came with firmware version 2.13 and I know 2.15 is the latest one, do I go ahead and upgrade to 2.15 or just leave it alone?
 
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I got my OCZ Vertex 3 SSD put in the HDD bay today, it has been running ok so far. Now my question is the Vertex 3 came with firmware version 2.13 and I know 2.15 is the latest one, do I go ahead and upgrade to 2.15 or just leave it alone?
Do you have any problems with it currently? I had to apply a fix on my Vertex 3, but that resolved the Link Speed issue it has with 2009 MBPs.
 

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Do you have any problems with it currently? I had to apply a fix on my Vertex 3, but that resolved the Link Speed issue it has with 2009 MBPs.
I don't have any problem with it so far. Did you have to upgrade to firmware version 2.15 to get your Link Speed issue resolved?
 
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Do you recommend updating firmware from 2.13 to 2.15 if I have no problem with it?
I am not versed enough with SSDs to give any recommendations, I just did the update due to my issue. Otherwise I would have left it as it is, as my Vertex 2 in my iMac is still at the version I bought it with, though now they are at version +.23 or something.

By the way, will all the data get erased after the firmware update?
Not for me, but a backup via CarbonCopyCloner is advisable, in case something does go wrong.