Late 2013 Macbook pro 15" SSD

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  1. pandy43k macrumors newbie

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    Hi,

    does anyone know if the SSD in an early 2015 macbook pro 13" would fit in a late 2013 15" ?

    they are both PCIe modules so i can't see why they wouldn't.....
     
  2. JTToft macrumors 68040

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    Good question. I think that it will. The connector is the same, but another consideration is the physical size of the SSD itself.
    Another way to look at it is the other way around: 2013 -> 2015. On that, Ifixit is a little vague, listing the part from the 2013 model as compatible will all Retina MBPs, but then specifying only the late '13 and mid '14. It might just be because the page hasn't been updated since the introduction of the 2015 model, though.
     
  3. ooans macrumors 6502

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    I put the images of Early 2015 rMBP 13" and Late 2013 rMBP 13" next to each other (from iFixit) and it appears that the connectors are similar. I hope someone tries it out if they work or not :)

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5950087/rmbp 2013 2015 pcie comparison.jpg

    edit: Would be especially interesting to see how fast those faster SSD's designed for PCIE x4 would work in a PCIE x2 system.
     
  4. pandy43k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    thanks for those pics, they do look very similar. i have the opportunity to try it in a few weeks and wanted to take the drive from the 2015 as it will be 1tb over the 512gb in the 2013. they look the same size and the connector looks the same so I'm hopeful.

    i was under the impression that the PICe x2 and x4 was based on the drive itself rather than the macbook, was the late 2013 1tb model not x4?
     
  5. ooans, Apr 15, 2015
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  6. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    You're correct, it's based on the drive itself and not on the MacBook.

    Even my friend's 13" late-2013 rMBP with a 1TB SSD clocks in at around 1000MB/s, and a quick check via System Information showed it as PCIe x4.
     
  7. doboy macrumors 68000

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    2015 rMBP doesn't use NVM Express.
     
  8. CaptainChunk macrumors 68020

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    Only the upcoming 12" MB uses NVM Express, so far - at least according to Anandtech's review.
     
  9. pandy43k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    it all sounds promising, i can't see why in at least theory it shouldn't work. i want to upgrade the 15" to a 1 tb drive before apple switch to NVME as i agree with you the macbook might not support it itself .

    interesting about the PCIe x4 - the current stock 512gb pulls around 680mb/s write and 722mb/s read if that increases with the 1tb drive that would be great!
     
  10. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    NVMe is not a physical connector. It's just a drive technology that greatly improves speeds to beyond 2000MB/s or so.

    The NVMe SSDs in the 12" rMB are still connected over PCIe.

    So long story short, I also don't see why NVMe-PCIe drives won't work in existing Haswell Macs either.
     
  11. ooans macrumors 6502

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    I would very much like to have a 1TB 2015 SSD with about 1300MB/s read and write speeds in my Late 2013 rMBP.
     
  12. pandy43k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    once i get my sticky mitts on the drive ill let you all know if it works. really hope it does!

    maybe somebody else will get there before me and can let me know though.. :cool:
     
  13. segalas, Apr 16, 2015
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    I'm totally in on this thread!

    I've been eye-balling that 1TB PCIe x4 SSD on eBay to replace my 512GB in my '13 MBP.

    Looking forward to your install and feedback.
     
  14. ooans macrumors 6502

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    Just make sure it's the new 2015 SSD instead of the 2013 one, cause there is a clear speed difference. I would think that finding 2015 1TB MBP SSD's could be a challenge right now, so I'm personally prepared to wait for some time until they are available.
     
  15. Samuelsan2001 macrumors 603

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    Why??

    Unless you are constantly moving very large files it'll make very little difference I/O performance is much more relevant to most use cases....
     
  16. ooans macrumors 6502

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    I am constantly moving large files. I know it will not have a clear effect on many things.

    I currently have a 500GB SSD on my Late 2013 15" MBP and I regret I didn't originally buy the 1TB. I am constantly running out of space. If I am to buy a 1TB SSD via eBay or such, I would rather buy the faster one.
     
  17. pandy43k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    It works!!!

    Hi,

    finally got my hands on the drive and can confirm it does work. A 2015 SSD will fit in a late 2013 15" laptop. the drive itself is the same length but is much wider than the 2013 SSD. however it still fits in the laptop with no modification at all.

    to boot I'm getting 1366mb/s write and 1476mb/s read!!

    hope this is helpful for others that wish to upgrade :cool::cool::cool:
     
  18. darngooddesign macrumors G3

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    Link for the drive please.
     
  19. pandy43k thread starter macrumors newbie

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    it was lifted from a 2015 13" macbook pro so sadly you can't buy it separately
     
  20. ooans macrumors 6502

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    Would be nice to know when the Chinese (or whoever the sellers are) start selling these newer SSDs on Ebay!
     
  21. bryanwongxin macrumors member

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    I am Chinese. I searched our "Ebay"website -- taobao but found nothing about new SSD
    But I found the brand new 2015 SSD on eBay,and it's very expensive...
     
  22. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    Well...SM951s aren't cheap.

    I wouldn't trust Taobao. I got ripped off once from them (yup, I'm a Mandarin and Cantonese speaker too).
     
  23. bryanwongxin macrumors member

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    在这里能遇到同胞,真不容易~
     
  24. bryanwongxin macrumors member

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    Is it necessary to replace XP941 512G to SM951 512G?
     
  25. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    Not really. Unless you've plenty of money to burn for the sake of performance.

    In reality, the performance difference is negligible unless you're doing I/O intensive work.
     

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