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Late 2014 Mac Mini Benchmarks Indicate Decreased Multi-Core Performance
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I do not understand the iMac allure
Why would I buy an expensive, beautiful display - to only toss it away in a few years? The iMac is marginally better than the Mac Mini - the only thing that sets it aside in my book is the built-in "Thunderbolt" level display.
But, I keep my displays for upwards of 10 years. I buy a good display, and I keep it. Why would I spend close to $1,200 on a display that will be tossed in the garbage, and replaced the next time I need to upgrade the processor? It just seems stupid.
That's where I got into my Mac Mini. I kept my old 27" HDMI HDTV, and now use it as my primary display. Works just fine. And the Mac Mini, when it's no longer fit to be my primary processor - will find it's way into the garage to be a network movie server.
The Mac Mini is a perfectly solid platform - that USED to be able to be customized as finances became available. Now, it's off to EBay to buy a 2012 i7 Mac Mini - because Apple sabotaged this cycle of the Mac Mini.
Why would I buy an expensive, beautiful display - to only toss it away in a few years? The iMac is marginally better than the Mac Mini - the only thing that sets it aside in my book is the built-in "Thunderbolt" level display.
But, I keep my displays for upwards of 10 years. I buy a good display, and I keep it. Why would I spend close to $1,200 on a display that will be tossed in the garbage, and replaced the next time I need to upgrade the processor? It just seems stupid.
That's where I got into my Mac Mini. I kept my old 27" HDMI HDTV, and now use it as my primary display. Works just fine. And the Mac Mini, when it's no longer fit to be my primary processor - will find it's way into the garage to be a network movie server.
The Mac Mini is a perfectly solid platform - that USED to be able to be customized as finances became available. Now, it's off to EBay to buy a 2012 i7 Mac Mini - because Apple sabotaged this cycle of the Mac Mini.
It is a problem (for consumers) that Apple doesn't have a mid-level machine without a monitor attached. A 4 core Mac Mini with Iris Pro would fill this gap nicely. Of course they don't offer this because they want to push people to buy iMac or Mac Pro even though these machines have more than what a large number of Mac users want.
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No Mac Minis available in the Refurb section at apple.com
Loads (and I mean loads, considering it was only released in December 2013) of Mac Pros are available... refurbished... at ridiculous prices.
Apple has lost it. They must think every customer of theirs is part of the 1 percent.
Loads (and I mean loads, considering it was only released in December 2013) of Mac Pros are available... refurbished... at ridiculous prices.
Apple has lost it. They must think every customer of theirs is part of the 1 percent.
While Apple taking our money. I started to think is Apple is playing a mini joke on us recently? iPad mini and Mac mini! I'm losing interest on them lately, too bad it's too late for me I'm stuck with the system. I just preordered the iPad Air 2 I'm hoping it's not a disappointment! I'm still hoping the RAM is 2 gig, we'll wait and see.
The quad-core options of 2012 Mac mini are 70 to 80% faster for multi-threaded tasks than the corresponding 2014 Mac mini processor options. For single-threaded tasks and for graphic-related tasks the 2014 Mac minis are faster.
Your statement makes for a good headline by picking out only one aspect and by conveniently rounding up the numbers.
My gaming machine I specified all the parts for a hackintosh build, got it up and running everything working except imessage and airdrop. Then an update came and killed my sound, had to wait for one of the extremely clever people in the community to modify the kext for my motherboard... Then another update came and I started grtting random freezes. Then I wiped the SSD clean and just put 8.1 on.
Hackintosh works... But it's messy and not for a primary machine, just for fun or messing around in OS X. I don't trust it for security or anything.
With hundreds of millions of customers they can't keep up their level of quality an innovation and please every single one. I mean look at the negative reaction to the new thinner iMacs, I also thought it was unnecessary. But I was wrong and they were right.
They still make what you want, albeit maybe the solution is a few hundred $ more than you want to pay, but really, if you get a grip on reality, it's only a number. If you want quad core then save up for a retina iMac. If you want a Rolls Royce or a Ferrari, you have to step up from ten thousand to $200,000, but if you want to step up from a mac mini to the Rolls Royce of home computers it's just a grand or two. Think about it, you can have a quad core i7 21.5" imac with discrete graphics for only a few hundred more than a mac mini.
And Apple never offered quad-core minis with the top Intel-integrated graphics. Yes, they might want to push people to buy the iMac but no matter what Apple offers in the Mac mini, it is always just one more feature and everything would be fine, except of course that it wouldn't.
Ever since Tim Cook took over, it's been a repeat of reused ***** from last year (iphone 5C, ipad mini 3, etc)...
So, in effect, the Mini is dead.
This is such a bleh update, after such a long time, I am surprised Apple even bothered.
This is such a bleh update, after such a long time, I am surprised Apple even bothered.
Some of the software in OS X server is multi-core. So what about people that bought Mac Mini Servers? Are they ALL fools? Is Apple a bunch of fools for making a multi core server to accommodate the multicore software?
I am going to disagree with some of that. Windows Machines repeatedly crap out on me and other family members. They call me up in the middle of the night. I'm like there is nothing I can do for you. I'm sorry you just bought that thing and now it's a brick. Its not the same hardware. It never has been the same hardware. Apple has more stringent standards for their hardware than other vendors selling at cost. That's just a fact. You are only one person. Am I supposed to believe you or the people complaining to me about their problems. Apple isn't perfect but there is a reason they have the reputation they do.The **** they doing with them?? I have a windows machine from 2011 still running fine. I have an imac from 2010 that had its HDD fail on me over the weekend. Swapped out the SSD and it's as good as new. Funny thing is I knew the hdd was failing, and was waiting for the awesome October Apple event to replace it with a super mini. Apple just missed out on up to $2,000.00. This old quad core imac i7 from over four years ago feels as snappy as my i7 4770k 16gb ram gtx 770 gaming machine.
It's a falicy that macs last longer, it's the same damn hardware, it's just pc guys tend to upgrade more for gpu performance as more software is available to them.
And I'm not by any means a windows lover, I hate it but I use it every day and have to know it.
But dude, I like our '09 Mac mini server. I just wish I had more cores to dedicate to VMs. I'm not going to use an iMac as a server; I've already tried that with the G5.
All I can say that is thank God that I bought a refurbished 2012 Mac Mini last December. It has a 1TB fusion drive with quad core. I updated the RAM to 16 MB. Beautiful machine that runs fast.
I wondered if I made the right choice back then since Apple took so long to come out with a new one. This recent release only confirms that I made the right choice.
I wondered if I made the right choice back then since Apple took so long to come out with a new one. This recent release only confirms that I made the right choice.
Love the way you persistently use the word "only" again and again; are you in Apple marketing?
The **** they doing with them?? I have a windows machine from 2011 still running fine. I have an imac from 2010 that had its HDD fail on me over the weekend. Swapped out the SSD and it's as good as new. Funny thing is I knew the hdd was failing, and was waiting for the awesome October Apple event to replace it with a super mini. Apple just missed out on up to $2,000.00
It's a falicy that macs last longer, it's the same damn hardware, it's just pc guys tend to upgrade more for gpu performance as more software is available to them.
And I'm not by any means a windows lover, I hate it but I use it every day and have to know it.
In my experience, there has been some bad Mac hardware (iMac G5s sucked!), but overall Macs have lasted longer for me and others. I thought it was so darn funny when a floor mate's new Dell's logic board failed because it was just after he was talking smack about all the Macs people have. The Mac Pro I use is a great workhorse.
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The third one isn't true... It costs the exact same as a 5K display by itself, so I'd call even a Core 2 Duo retina iMac a good deal. And it has good parts; the only thing to complain about is the mobile GPU.
PCs don't have "logic boards", they have motherboards - Apple felt the need to HAVE to differentiate themselves over even something as pointless as the name for the main PCB...
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All I can say that is thank God that I bought a refurbished 2012 Mac Mini last December. It has a 1TB fusion drive with quad core. I updated the RAM to 16 MB. Beautiful machine that runs fast.
I wondered if I made the right choice back then since Apple took so long to come out with a new one. This recent release only confirms that I made the right choice.
What tools did you use? That's quite a feat... is it EDO RAM?
Looks like Mapple got TWO bites of the Apple:
#1 Lower the specs, barely lower the price.
#2 All future "upgrades" = Apple profit.
Ooooooh Mapple... what we gonna do you with you, hmmm? (rhetorical, mock question, to which the answer is... NOTHING at all, again).
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Uhmmm... no.
#1 Lower the specs, barely lower the price.
#2 All future "upgrades" = Apple profit.
Ooooooh Mapple... what we gonna do you with you, hmmm? (rhetorical, mock question, to which the answer is... NOTHING at all, again).
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Uhmmm... no.
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