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I think it has more to do with the heat generated by a desktop class CPU in such a small case. Every micro PC uses an Ultrabook processor, because there just isn't enough room for a good thermal solution.

But the last gen was faster and is ultra quiet. I have one in the living room and it is absolutely silent. The fan rarely ever spins up. Even for big tasks.
 
Looks like the hackintosh gets another year of use while Apple figures out how it's going to remake it's lineup. I was going to get a mini so I could stop dealing with the annoyances of hackintosh life, but not after castrating it like they have.

Honestly the retina iMac is tempting, but after decades of experience I try to never buy 1st gen hardware. Even is the display is everything it's billed as and there are no faults, it will be more refined and stable after another rev. Honestly the biggest problems with these big leaps is that I don't think a mobile GPU really has the power to drive the 5k monitor through more than two years of OS and software upgrades.
 
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"Wait until you see what we have next" Tim Cook

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Forget everything positive I said about this move. I will now have to tell my father to avoid the mini at all costs. I guess he's moving up to an iMac next year.
 
I'll keep my complaint simple... Soldered on RAM when it's not necessary for any cost issue and is the most logical or necessary upgrade of any computer is just plain inexcusable Apple. It's actually WORSE than Michael Splinder's failed PERFORMA LINE of MACS!

Especially with the added requirements of Yosemite.

It's like, Hey Jim, here's a new Yosemite computer for you. It's cheaper.
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That is all.
 
I wonder if this is some misguided Apple effort to be green. Reduce power consumption for less CO2 emissions? Seems to be the only explanation.

Or they are using economies of scale by using the same processors in the MBA's, minis, and entry level 21" iMacs...
 
True, but it will probably come down in price, possibly by quite a lot. Already here in the UK I see discounts of about $500 on the low end version and if you are a business you can reclaim the VAT if registered, which saves another 20% too.

Not Apples choice, buy the sellers to shift the stock. Apple charges resellers at least 80% of retail.
 
Just to ground this discussion in reality: If we were talking about PCs, not Macs, we wouldn't be having this discussion, because for PCs, there is no gap in the product line. I could easily find a PC to upgrade to. If I were a Windows user, nobody would ever suggest a high-end $3000 Xeon PC for my scenario. People would find such a suggestion utterly ridiculous. The fact that we ended up with this utterly ridiculous suggestion should show that here is a major problem with Apple's product segmentation now.

I see. And you are right. that will become a problem when apple decides to stop supporting your hardware.. i was only suggesting a mac pro in lieu of upgrading so often. but yes it does sound ridiculous. We will have to see if Apple decides to go into that market, I'm sure other products will take a hit for sure.
 
I too think this is nonsense and i do not see th iMac as a viable option. I had a 2007 iMac that had one HD fail and luckily replaced under apple care. I suspect the "new" drive was failing last year as the iMac was getting slower and slower, even with a new OS install (oh how PC!). Hated the fact that I couldn't fix it myself and had a beautiful 24" monitor that I couldn't use. Ended up buying a late '12 Mac mini i7, upgraded to SSD and 16GB myself and hooked it up to a Dell U2412 monitor. Love it and like knowing if (and when) my system fails I can fix most of it myself. If I did an iMac i would be stuck again. I will never buy another AIO, so it looks like I wont be buying another Mac.
 
Just wait for the Broadwell Mac Mini. : )



For what? Every generation there are better and more efficient processors. If we always 'wait' for the next generation there would never be a product worth buying. Theres nothing Broadwell is supposed to do that is that much of an bigger improvement over Haswell or Ivy Bridge before it. Not like we are going to see jumps in performance and efficiency of 50% in one generation.
 
I can see the logic, don't like it but I can see it:

1. Mini = Mum/Dads on a budget, school and homework related tasks
2. iMac = Prosumer, Mums/Dads with money, teenage or young adults uni/highschool, work at home type clients
3. MacPro = Professionals need only apply who can make use of the GPUs more than anything (if you don't price check a Lenovo or Dell and see how much more you get for the same money of course)

How was the quad core serrver for mums and dads on a budget, school and homework?
 
The $499 ones comes without taking advantage of the PCIe storage - so no benefit.

Yeah, sorry, bad writing there, I was referring to the two top of the line models in the last paragraph, carrying on from the last sentence of the paragraph above it. My fault.
 
For those of you saying you want to see a Mini with an i7 and Iris Pro, I am with you. But it has been done, not by Apple, but in the PC market.

Gigabyte did it with their BRIX series. It's $650 without an memory, harddrive or software. It has a 135W power supply. It does not have Thunderbolt (which adds licensing costs).

But more importantly, even with an obnoxiously loud fan it STILL has to throttle when being pushed because the small form factor just isn't enough mass to handle all that heat. Apple wants the Mini to be quite. They do not want the case, which is used as a heatsink, to be stupid hot to the touch. As a customer I agree with these goals.

I'm not saying that going backwards is a good thing, and I'm not defending that particular move. But I think some people had unrealistic expectations for what Apple could get out of the current form factor of the Mini. Real estate inside and heat dissipation are a real concern.
 
Fine if you don't want to label it "greed" but it certainly is driven by $$$.

They clearly noticed they were selling a computer that was pretty much just as fast as one that was 3x as expensive - quad core Mini vs. quad core nMP. So did we and that is why we loved the quad core Mac Mini.

Honestly I would have been fine if they had realized that fact and upped the high end quad core Mini price somewhat (not to the price of a nMP since it has other distinct advantages justifying it's steep price tag). However, they just stopped offering it at all.
 
I'm pretty sure the last gen Minis used an ultrabook class chip, too. The reason it's faster is because it came with a quad-core option.

I don't think so, but I'm not even sure how to look that up. I think I heard that it was a mobile professor, but not the ultra line.
 
IF you want to know the direction Apple is headed, just think about the endless sell job Apple did on the iPad Air 2 camera - yeah, I'll be shooting all my photos with an iPad, yeah.
 
"We've designed the new Mac Mini to be slower, so you can enjoy your content better. These days, we are in such a hurry that we fail to slowdown and appreciate what we're seeing. The new Mac Mini is about making the personal computer...personal again." - Jony

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