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So with the shipping debacle and the reviews I'm inclined to wait for v2.

According to this:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2893112/intels-skylake-chips-to-appear-in-tablets-pcs-servers.html

"The first Skylake PCs are expected to be available in the second half this year. Dell, for example, has said it will launch Skylake laptops in that time frame. Intel’s chips are used by most PC makers.

Intel is expecting big graphics performance improvements, longer laptop battery life, and better CPU performance with the new chips. Skylake will also allow users to wirelessly charge laptops, connect to monitors, and transfer data to peripherals."

Does that mean we get an update before the end of the year with wireless charging? :eek: Would the enclosure get in the way of wireless charging or they figured it out like for wifi?

Maybe that's why there's only one port cause in v2 you won't even need it to charge (most of the time)...

Am I dreaming or what? If not there's no point in this V1 aside from a tech demo with skylake so close. Performance is not even the issue for me but this seem like a big functional update
 
While Skylake will be on various PCs including Dell, are you sure we'll see apple doing it, and more specifically rolling out a V2 of the rMB within months of unveiling the new computer? I'm less inclined to believe apple will announce a brand new line of computers, only to replace it a few months later.
 
While Skylake will be on various PCs including Dell, are you sure we'll see apple doing it, and more specifically rolling out a V2 of the rMB within months of unveiling the new computer? I'm less inclined to believe apple will announce a brand new line of computers, only to replace it a few months later.

I agree but if they roll it out in december or even early next year with all the shipping delay it's worth a wait. It's only 7 months wait approx to get wireless charging! I'm all in.
 
So with the shipping debacle and the reviews I'm inclined to wait for v2.

Maybe that's why there's only one port cause in v2 you won't even need it to charge (most of the time)...

Am I dreaming or what? If not there's no point in this V1 aside from a tech demo with skylake so close. Performance is not even the issue for me but this seem like a big functional update

All the shipping delay has done for me is that I will literally "miss the boat" by the time I return Skylake will be upon us. Right now am looking more at the Surface Pro 4 or MacBook with Skylake, purchasing the current MacBook mid summer makes no sense...

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While Skylake will be on various PCs including Dell, are you sure we'll see apple doing it, and more specifically rolling out a V2 of the rMB within months of unveiling the new computer? I'm less inclined to believe apple will announce a brand new line of computers, only to replace it a few months later.

Don't discount it Apple`s done it before, and right now they are behind the curve, not that the tech crowd is their target audience.

Personally I expect an update to the Macbook Q4 or Q1 2016, as although the reviews have been mostly positive the MacBook will likely benefit significantly from Skylake broadening it`s appeal. Replacing no, updating yes...

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Don't discount it Apple`s done it before, and right now they are behind the curve, not that the tech crowd is their target audience.

Personally I expect an update to the Macbook Q4 or Q1 2016, as although the reviews have been mostly positive the MacBook will likely benefit significantly from Skylake broadening it`s appeal. Replacing no, updating yes...

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All the shipping delay has done for me is that I will literally "miss the boat" by the time I return Skylake will be upon us. Right now am looking more at the Surface Pro 4 or MacBook with Skylake, purchasing the current MacBook mid summer makes no sense...

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Intel is known for blowing deadlines. I wouldn't hold my breathe TBQH...
 
Intel is known for blowing deadlines. I wouldn't hold my breathe TBQH...

Agreed, equally Intel is extremely determined to keep Skylake on schedule, due to the debacle Broadwell`s release was, nor is Skylake as problematic for Intel from a manufacturing point of view.

Personally I think Skylake will roll out Q3 as this makes a lot of sense for Intel, Microsoft and the hardware vendors. New platform, new OS, new possibilities, Apple wont sit on this too long I assure you..


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Same promises every new chip brings. Intel is notorious for delays. Plus if they make it on time and Apple does a quick refresh, it is likely to just be a CPU refresh (i.e. no extra ports over V1). I'm not buying this laptop for the CPU (who on earth is?) so I'm not sweating Skylake.
 
While Skylake will be on various PCs including Dell, are you sure we'll see apple doing it, and more specifically rolling out a V2 of the rMB within months of unveiling the new computer? I'm less inclined to believe apple will announce a brand new line of computers, only to replace it a few months later.

Give me a break. Apple had no problem releasing the iPad 4 months after the iPad 3.

Also, there has always been Early and Late Models in the same year for Macs.
 
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Give me a break. Apple had no problem releasing the iPad 4 months after the iPad 3.

Also, there has always been Early and Late Models in the same year for Macs.

Not only that, but would Apple risk giving PC makers a huge head-start for Skylake notebooks?

By the hour I'm edging towards waiting for Skylake.

And just a note, wireless charging is not specific to Skylake technology. The confusion was due to a demo unit by Intel that happened to have Skylake and wireless charging.
 
Not only that, but would Apple risk giving PC makers a huge head-start for Skylake notebooks?

By the hour I'm edging towards waiting for Skylake.

And just a note, wireless charging is not specific to Skylake technology. The confusion was due to a demo unit by Intel that happened to have Skylake and wireless charging.

Especially given the combination of Windows 10 and the holiday shopping season? Standing on the sidelines would be VERY costly in dollars and market share.
 
Core M was the first thing they released on 14nm, so it reasons that Core M will also be the first thing they release for Skylake. If so, I can easily see another release by the end of the year.
 
Core M was the first thing they released on 14nm, so it reasons that Core M will also be the first thing they release for Skylake. If so, I can easily see another release by the end of the year.

Right, but how long is it going to be from when Broadwell was released to when we actually get a finished product from Aplple. Don't put too much hope in an early Skylake release.
 
While Skylake will be on various PCs including Dell, are you sure we'll see apple doing it, and more specifically rolling out a V2 of the rMB within months of unveiling the new computer? I'm less inclined to believe apple will announce a brand new line of computers, only to replace it a few months later.

The original MBA and its successor both came out in the same year, with the 3rd generation coming just 8 months later, so seeing one later this year after the release of Skylate is not out of the question. I wouldn't expect it before the fall though.
 
The original MBA and its successor both came out in the same year, with the 3rd generation coming just 7 months later, so seeing one later this year after the release of Skylate is not out of the question. I wouldn't expect it before the fall though.

Good homework and interesting data - thank you.
 
The original MBA and its successor both came out in the same year, with the 3rd generation coming just 8 months later, so seeing one later this year after the release of Skylate is not out of the question. I wouldn't expect it before the fall though.

Exactly, so even a small delay make a difference, especially for Skylake as it`s all about the iGPU. If you can get the first generation early and get use out of it fine, picking one up mid year makes little sense as we all know the second generation will be significantly improved...

Bottom line is Apple manufactures consumer product and the vast majority of consumers are not informed or simply don't care.

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Which is precisely the reason Apple will probably not rush to upgrade to Skylake as so many of you are hoping they will. It's wishful thinking I suspect.

We will see in the upcoming months. For me the performance increase with Skylake will be the defining factor as there is already some criticism of the MacBooks graphical capabilities running scaled resolutions something Apple are clearly sensitive to.

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Agreed, equally Intel is extremely determined to keep Skylake on schedule, due to the debacle Broadwell`s release was, nor is Skylake as problematic for Intel from a manufacturing point of view.

Personally I think Skylake will roll out Q3 as this makes a lot of sense for Intel, Microsoft and the hardware vendors. New platform, new OS, new possibilities, Apple wont sit on this too long I assure you..


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The question at that point is which would be a more important purchase, a skylake rMB or rMBP?

Assuming of course that skylake architecture will present a smaller form factor, I'd be willing to bet the rMB will almost certainly gain at *least* one more USB-C port.

Otoh it would be surprising if the skylake rMBP wouldn't integrate the new and thinner scissors-style keyboard, and quite possibly the thinner retina display as well. All based on conjecture but this to me would represent a much higher upgrade, the skylake rMBP over the skyline rMB. What ever the case I won't be buying applecare for my new rMB, till all of this is sorted out, which would mean keeping my MBP a little longer than expected. ;)
 
always something new to wait for. always.

hell no, i'm buying this. my rev. C MBA must be replaced!
 
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