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Discussion in 'OS X El Capitan (10.11)' started by ChrisDB, Sep 5, 2015.
So the latest beta got ui lag almost like yosemite . Go back to beta 1 for smooth use .
I really don't think that going back to DP1 from DP8 is a good idea.
I see no lag. The 2015 MacBook is superb and I assure you MacBook users would see Yosemite lag
Ahaha , almost no macbook user saw the horrible ui lag on yosemite , the 2015 macbook is badly underpowered , please scroll a pdf and see .
So thank you but no thank you for replay .
I have a 2015 macbook. I use yosemite and el capitan. If you don't want to take my word for it, whatever. Launcher fades in butter smooth. Windows now slide into their doc perfectly smooth unlike before metal was used as the underpinnings of core animation.
(opens pdf) scrolls smoothly. the gpu in macbook more than handles these things, it was mostly OpenGL overhead.
My MacBook Pro Retina 15" early 2013 is suffering from this too. The Dock (the enlargement animation), Launchpad (Opening and closing, as well as opening and closing folders), scrolling in Safari and Finder. It is for me periodically, sometimes none, other times very bad. And my games are suffering from the same problem. One moment fine, and another very bad. Didn't have this problem until the recent update.
Check your CPU usage when lag spikes occur, this sounds like a process that got out of hand. I do not experience any lag whatsoever here.
That tells us something. El capitan only improves core animation for ui but games are unaffected unless uodated to use metal. Likely this is cpu.
I bet you have that damn feedback service running a lot. It seems to take large amounts of time gathering info for crash reports.
Run activity monitor and see.
edit: look for spindump service in activity monitor. It is the tool used to collect the data for apple to analyze a crash. I think feedback assistant uses it to create feedback 'snapshots' of what your mac is doing when there is an issue. Mine got stuck ago 100% a while back and I had to force kill it. It shows up as lag and overheating.
It actually does seem to affect my games as well. They tend to throttle quite at lot after just a few minutes. They did throttle a little before the update, but not this much.
The Feedback utility is not running unless I am actually reporting something. Because you are right, it drains the CPU.
However, since this afternoon (danish time) I havn't had the UI lag problem. Funny, cause a restart didn't fix it, but 5 hours of standby did....?
OS X is now really bad , will be running windows exclusivly on my macbook air . What is the point on trying all day to make the OS running ok .
Windows = get work done !
Ahhh I wouldn't say so in my case. My Windows machine is not exactly getting the work done for me. I do however know this is a very subjective thing
I am staying with OS X, since windows doesn't have the applications to deal with tasks. At least not in the way I like.
And on a second note, my PC has not taken kindly to Windows 10, and has been experiencing frequent system crashes for no reason.
By the way, with your orientation of OS, aren't you kinda in the wrong forum ;-) (No offense)
Guess your work is clicking away More.. and Advanced.. buttons and clicking dialogs away ^_^
Anyway, on-topic.. I do experience with beta 5 and beta 6 that I get some sluggy behaviour here and there what beta2 and beta 3 didn't have.
Exactly my point !
Not to state the obvious, but but you can't judge an OS in its beta form. Remember how much Vista changed from RC2 to its final form, alone on boot, we are talking 3-4 minutes shaved off. (It had serious problems with reliability and compatibility, because they released a little too soon, SP2 was okay, in my experience)
I think the only stable beta I have ever run of any OS, was Windows 7. (Mind you it was a late beta )
My Retina MacBook is super smooth with El Capitan beta 8. This was not the case in Yosemite, especially in Mission Control (even my 27" iMac was lagging). Now everything is smooth and works very well. Apple finally optimized its UI.
Bro , Yosemite , which is final product is worst than El Capitan beta in terms of UI Lag , and it's final release . We all got excited with the first el capitan betas that the ui lag and performance is better , but with Public beta 5 , 6 and Developer beta 7 , 8 the lag is back . Apple desktop grade software , the most advance operating sistem in the world is a joke , even windows vista was stable once you disabled aero .
I am not your bro. You said what you wanted, people can now read it and judge by themselves. Now please, go away, or make a video showing the lag.
I was taking with Lunder89 .
Okay... OS X Yosemite has not been Apples best OS. It was poorly optimized for Retina displays, as was Mavericks and Mountain Lion.
But in terms of reliability, I don't think Windows comes close to OS X. I have had zero crashes on OS X since I got my MacBook Pro Retina 15" back in 2013. I can't count the same on my PC. Windows 8 was fairly reliable, but Windows update caused a few more problems, than it felt like it solved, for me.
And Windows 10 is not getting off to a good start, in fact, it is so unreliable I can't do any actual work on it currently, because I don't know when it is going to crash on me, some days running for, well days, other times it crashes 10 minutes after a reboot. (And yes drivers and everything has been updated, I am tech-guy and know what I am doing)
Now I am NOT trying to convert you. Your OS, your choice. But saying that OS X being to most advanced OS is a joke. I am sorry, just shows how little you know about OS X's core, and what goes on beneath the surface, and what's actually possible for someone who is not afraid of exploring OS X. (I am sorry for being harsh, this is NOT written to offend you in any way)
We all have our choices and preferences, and I respect that. You choose Windows, fair enough. Just don't expect everyone to feel the same way.
I'm not choosing windows over os x , both have their problems . I know that os x is unix based , and whole thing is like a pdf , but windows 10 is faster on same hardware . Even with metal it feels that os x adds to much overhead on graphics , cpu and memory and that is not advanced to me . The only advantage os x has over windows is smooth scrolling in safari and the ui , which is not an advantaje now with the whole UI LAG .
Sounds an awful lot like it... Anyway....
Guess the performance depends on the hardware. I have a couple of times run Windows on my Mac. (for some good games of course). I can't really feel the difference in performance, but the Mac tends to get a lot hotter running installations and updates, compared to OS X doing the same... And it's not like it feels faster on Windows, I think windows and OS X are just working differently. I often feel the way Windows does things feels unresponsive, even tough it isn't. I feel it's easier to tell wether the Mac is doing something, or isn't, compared to windows.
But I have no proof (application start times or file copying times). But wether OS X is in general throttling performance more than windows.... I don't know.
This kid must be astroturfing or trolling.
I find El Capitan UI much smoother than Yosemite. In fact, with PB6, I find it is every bit as stable as Yosemite. I've run El Capitan since PB1 on my 15' rMBP w/AMD R9 M370X and Yosemite before that. I still run Yosemite on my wife's 27" iMac and it is buggy as hell compare to my rMBP.
I find no lag on DB8 what so ever.
The only UI "lag" I can find is by opening Notification Center for the first timer after booting up. Other than that, El Capitan is running buttery smooth for me