Latest Photoshop CC 14.2 Mac Pro support

yauwing

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I guess some of you may want to know the news below


http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2014/01/photoshop-cc-14-2-update-jdi-features-mac-proos-x-10-9-compatibility-and-notable-bug-fixes.html

The Photoshop CC 14.2 update provides GPU compatibility support for the new Apple Mac Pro. The 14.2 update will allow Photoshop to take full advantage of one of the two available GPUs at a time.

We expect to add support for both of the new Apple Mac Pro’s GPUs, and continue to optimize our customers experience by supporting additional GPU operations in a future release.

Each of the two GPUs in the base model of Mac Pro are faster than the GPUs available in any other Mac model, and provide plenty of speed and VRAM (memory on the GPU card) for most operations. If you spend a great deal of time editing very large images using one of the GPU-accelerated Photoshop features such as Blur Gallery, Liquify, or 3D, we expect this gain to be significant. (The 6GB VRAM in the highest end GPU option would only be needed for the largest 3D models).
 

akrantz

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Nice! A little off topic perhaps, but how does CC version compare to CS6? Is this update only for CC?
All updates going forward are for CC only. As to weather or not they are worth it, that is a matter of debate. The new features are very nice, and some of them extremely useful. How useful varies by tool and trade but I personally find several off the CC additions to be great productivity and time savers. That being said, obviously we all survived without them up to this point so they aren't required and there are some people who are philosophically opposed to the CC financial model.
 

wildmac

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Nice! A little off topic perhaps, but how does CC version compare to CS6? Is this update only for CC?
It's quite relevant for some of us whose purchases are still pending... :D

Hopefully there are making the same changes for Lightroom.
 

Gav Mack

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Glad I haven't got a nMP cos Adobe have had enough of my money as it is. Shoddy not supporting cs6 too for those that are getting one.
 

wildmac

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Glad I haven't got a nMP cos Adobe have had enough of my money as it is. Shoddy not supporting cs6 too for those that are getting one.
Wha?... you expect them to recode an old version? How about my CS 5.5 suite too? :rolleyes:

Yeah, the CC sub only sucks, but if you expect them to recode old versions...

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Looks like the $10/month deal is still going through Feb 28..

https://creative.adobe.com/plans/offer/photoshop+lightroom?sdid=KIHZP

I still may hold out, but some might be interested.
 

Gav Mack

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Wha?... you expect them to recode an old version? How about my CS 5.5 suite too? :rolleyes:

Yeah, the CC sub only sucks, but if you expect them to recode old versions...

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Looks like the $10/month deal is still going through Feb 28..

https://creative.adobe.com/plans/offer/photoshop+lightroom?sdid=KIHZP

I still may hold out, but some might be interested.
With just how good they seem to be with their online account security and passwords I will hang on till CS6 is on its last legs!
 

wildmac

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With just how good they seem to be with their online account security and passwords I will hang on till CS6 is on its last legs!
Fair point, but I assume you won't be using SnapChat, or shopping at Target or Neiman Marcus in the future either, correct? Or anyplace else that's been hacked? :rolleyes:;)

Myself, for my personal work, as long as Lightroom is a separate purchasable app, I'll probably hold off, until PS 5.5 doesn't run on the current OS.
 

Gav Mack

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Fair point, but I assume you won't be using SnapChat, or shopping at Target or Neiman Marcus in the future either, correct? Or anyplace else that's been hacked? :rolleyes:;)

Myself, for my personal work, as long as Lightroom is a separate purchasable app, I'll probably hold off, until PS 5.5 doesn't run on the current OS.
I'm a Brit so none of the above, plus Adobe have been hacked twice I think! Might have something to do with the colander sized security holes in their software :D
 

wildmac

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I'm a Brit so none of the above, plus Adobe have been hacked twice I think! Might have something to do with the colander sized security holes in their software :D
Yeah, just don't let the press there near your iPhone.. :eek: :cool:
 

lesferdinand

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Wha?... you expect them to recode an old version? How about my CS 5.5 suite too? :rolleyes:

Yeah, the CC sub only sucks, but if you expect them to recode old versions...

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Looks like the $10/month deal is still going through Feb 28..

https://creative.adobe.com/plans/offer/photoshop+lightroom?sdid=KIHZP

I still may hold out, but some might be interested.
Didn't realize that, may have to give it another look. If I recall correctly, it's just for the first year though, right? After which it'll be $20 p/ month.

My main hesitation is that once I move on, it'll be very hard to go back and who knows what Adobe will do with its pricing in the future. They just haven't given me much reason to trust them.
 

wildmac

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My main hesitation is that once I move on, it'll be very hard to go back and who knows what Adobe will do with its pricing in the future. They just haven't given me much reason to trust them.
Totally agree... but not like we have a lot of choice.
 

motegi

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My day-to-day professional work uses Adobe products almost exclusively. $50 a month is a pittance to what they earn me in the same timeframe. Moving from CS6 to CC was a no-brainer.

The yearly cost is MUCH less than the old price of the software suite and the updates and bug-fixes are much more frequent and undertaken when required (like the dual GPU Premiere update on CC a few weeks back). I'm more than happy to pay the comically cheap asking price for the tools of my trade.
 

wildmac

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My day-to-day professional work uses Adobe products almost exclusively. $50 a month is a pittance to what they earn me in the same timeframe. Moving from CS6 to CC was a no-brainer.

The yearly cost is MUCH less than the old price of the software suite and the updates and bug-fixes are much more frequent and undertaken when required (like the dual GPU Premiere update on CC a few weeks back). I'm more than happy to pay the comically cheap asking price for the tools of my trade.
Totally agree if you are putting in 40+ hours a week using them. But what Adobe did was cut off all the prosumers who use those tools. So current LR and an old PS is the likely working scenario.
 

analog guy

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Totally agree if you are putting in 40+ hours a week using them. But what Adobe did was cut off all the prosumers who use those tools. So current LR and an old PS is the likely working scenario.
i agree. i'm still on CS5 as my general practice was to upgrade every other release.

i prefer to own rather than rent my software, so moving to CC has not been a priority for me.

i suppose it comes down to economics for everyone. one could easily argue that if you spend 40h/week working with these tools the increase in productivity would be enough to pay for them. on the other hand, if one's work is not heavy enough to justify the cost, then perhaps one doesn't need them.

i might be a buyer if i could buy a version of CC and own it forever (even if i lost access to upgrades at a point in time) even if it cost me a bit more, but i don't have that option. may seem irrational but i don't like the notion of a perpetual stream with no guarantees about access and future pricing.

it is unfortunate to have new hardware, though, and 'waste' some of that with older software.
 

yauwing

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Totally agree if you are putting in 40+ hours a week using them. But what Adobe did was cut off all the prosumers who use those tools. So current LR and an old PS is the likely working scenario.
I am not doing 40 hrs Photoshop and LR - May be 10+ hours or so but do occasionally need to use Illustrator and Acrobat - end up pay the monthly rate instead of buying an outdated suite
 

Cory Bauer

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This is promising news; hopefully OpenCL support for other Adobe apps isn't far behind. As I understand it, the Windows version of Premiere CC uses the hell out of those FirePro cards via OpenCL.
 

riggles

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Yea, I noticed the GPU parts in the update today as well. Not that it really matters to me. I'm not really sure how much that will benefit me personally, since I don't really use the liquify and other accelerated tools much -- typically Camera RAW and maybe some other simple filters plus adjustment layers.

It's hard to talk about CC without getting into a subscription argument. I dislike being only offered a subscription service, especially since I don't even use PS every week. But at $10/month ($120/year) one quick job more than pays for the whole year. That's not really a hardship, considering the hundreds of dollars it would have cost me to buy PS CS6 (which is guaranteed to not get updates).

My big question is, who's really benefitting from thIs GPU acceleration in PS? What kind of work would you need to be doing to see a difference?
 

mintakax

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I wonder if the motivation for the subscription service is profit based or convenience based ? I know that as a hobbiest, I am paying more now for the software then I did before. I do understand that it's pro software and in the end may be a better delivery mechanism for those whose livelihoods depend on it.
Just curious.
 

motegi

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My big question is, who's really benefitting from thIs GPU acceleration in PS? What kind of work would you need to be doing to see a difference?
Well...

If you spend a great deal of time editing very large images using one of the GPU-accelerated Photoshop features such as Blur Gallery, Liquify, or 3D, we expect this gain to be significant. (The 6GB VRAM in the highest end GPU option would only be needed for the largest 3D models).
 

analog guy

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I wonder if the motivation for the subscription service is profit based or convenience based ?
are you really wondering the answer to this for more than a minute?

i suspect it was done to reduce piracy and increase profits, little more.
 

yauwing

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are you really wondering the answer to this for more than a minute?

i think it was done to reduce piracy and increase profits, little more.
I believe it is mainly for anti-piracy - which eventually will lead to bigger long term profit.

If they want short term profit, they should provide both subscription and sales of current version with free upgrade short a limited time at a higher price. (and allowed to pay a higher price for future upgrade)

I was in Asia a few months ago, the piracy of Photoshop there is frightening!
 

dlbmacfan

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The $10 per month price is not a first year special price. It's the actual price. I was reluctant to sign up for CC but the photographer bundle was too good of a deal to pass up. So far I've been impressed with the number of added features and performance enhancements that Adobe has released for CC; many more than you'd ever get with CS6 and earlier.
 

Alchemist

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Interesting, and extremely positive. I've just finished my writeup on my findings in Lightroom on the nMP. One of the things I speculated about was the potential for programs to be written in such a way to allow for greater harnessing of the GPUs.

As others have said I very much hope this makes its way to LR.

If anyone is interested, here's the link to my article. It includes some benchmarks:

http://tony-hart.com/blog/essays/2014/01/mac-pro-a-lightroom-perspective/