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Law and order returns to Baghdad...

pseudobrit

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/justin/nat/newsnat-9apr2003-69.htm

Across town, looters have attacked major sites in the city including UN headquarters and around the Olympic Committee building,

Police and other officials were absent from major streets, according to reports.

Television crews watched cheering crowds sack the UN headquarters in the Canal Hotel to the east of the centre, and then drive off in UN cars.

The correspondent says authority appears to have broken down in the capital as US troops moved in.
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:rolleyes: When do we break out the rubber bullets to give these protesters a taste of American order?
 
Maybe after they don't wear AKs like we wear purses or cell phones?

Just a thought...
 
"Law and order" returns to Baghdad...

I love that show... :D Oh Wait. . . ..


On a serious note, it is absolutely amazing that we have come as far as we have. I heard yesterday that the Brits were setting up a sheik as head of the local government in Basra. (On the radio, no link)

How many days are we into the confict? Somewhere less than 20? Amazing!

And the civil unrest is totally expected. These people were oppressed for decades. Just human nature I suppose to take advantage of a situation.
 
I was watching this morning as the Iraqis were trying to take down the statue of Sadam in the middle of Baghdad - pretty cool stuff. They were really happy to finally be able to do something like that.

But if I was living in Baghdad over the past 20 days, I'd be really happy to be outside and not have to worry about a bomb possibly dropping on me......

I hope the rest of the country follows swiftly :D

D
 
This Picture was on Fox News: (Eek Conservative Headquarters. ;))

The Kid on the right makes me smile. I have seen my own son make that face. It makes me feel connected. . . .
 
I think we take for granted that these people have lived under the blanket of fear for a very long time. They're a little excited and probably want stuff they've never had. It'll pass. Regional governments will be in place and order will come.
 
those are great pictures, there were talking to some soldiers on the news and they said from this day they finally knew what they were doing over there. i love seeing those guys hit saddam posters with their shoes, which is a very big symbol of disrepect over there.

iJon
 
Originally posted by iJon
those are great pictures, there were talking to some soldiers on the news and they said from this day they finally knew what they were doing over there. i love seeing those guys hit saddam posters with their shoes, which is a very big symbol of disrepect over there.

iJon
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Apparently someone was defecating on some posters of Saddam, too (heard it on NPR this am). :eek:

The visuals of the statue coming down are right up there with Stalin's statue and the Berlin wall. Truly memorable.
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Apparently someone was defecating on some posters of Saddam, too (heard it on NPR this am). :eek:

The visuals of the statue coming down are right up there with Stalin's statue and the Berlin wall. Truly memorable.
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im sure they are defacing anything they can get their hands on. on fox news they were burning pictures, hitting statues with axes, hitting him with shoes and all kinds of stuff. truly a great day in bagdad.

iJon
 
Originally posted by iJon
im sure they are defacing anything they can get their hands on. on fox news they were burning pictures, hitting statues with axes, hitting him with shoes and all kinds of stuff. truly a great day in bagdad.
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Unless of course you happen to be a busboy at that restaurant that was bombed yesterday.
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Apparently someone was defecating on some posters of Saddam, too (heard it on NPR this am). :eek:

The visuals of the statue coming down are right up there with Stalin's statue and the Berlin wall. Truly memorable.
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Yes, trully a historic day.

I love "Law & Order" also, all 3. ;)
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Apparently someone was defecating on some posters of Saddam, too (heard it on NPR this am). :eek:
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:D That should make it in the poop thread.. Where is eye when you need him. ;)
 
Originally posted by MacQuest
DEFECATING!! Rower_CPU said defecating, not DEFACING.:D

I sure hope they aren't getting their hands on anything that they've defecated on!!:D
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haha, i over looked the word, thats really funny. thanks for correcting me.

iJon
 
Originally posted by ear2ear
Unless of course you happen to be a busboy at that restaurant that was bombed yesterday.
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its war, things happen like this, it just something that happens.

iJon
 
Originally posted by iJon
those are great pictures, there were talking to some soldiers on the news and they said from this day they finally knew what they were doing over there. i love seeing those guys hit saddam posters with their shoes, which is a very big symbol of disrepect over there.

iJon
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Whilst it's great to see people that feel liberated it's worth bearing in mind that you may only see what's actually in the frame of the picture. If you pulled back from the picture of the statue being toppled you'd see this...

Originally from here
 
Originally posted by pseudobrit
A city of 5 million and only 300-500 people appear to celebrate at a time?

Doesn't quite add up to jubilation in the streets...
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Considering there is still fighting going on in the city I'd assume most people are staying put under cover. Especailly since the Iraq troops have a tendency to target civilians.


Lethal
 
pseudobrit:

A city of 5 million and only 300-500 people appear to celebrate at a time?
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Do you think they announced that they were going to tear down the statue at such-and-such time, or something? Oh, but now that I see this is pseudobrit posting, I'm not surprised. First it's anti-war, then anti-cops in that one thread I remember, and now you insist on believing that the Iraqis are not actually happy. Now, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I'd be more impressed if your opinion appeared to change with the situation.
 
i think it's undeniable the US media painted the rally as much bigger than the photo above implies. what i saw on tv made it look huge, but this photo gives me pause.

i've seen some dodgy reports floating around the internet that this exile-led militia group was spotted in the crowd, implying they'd been brought in to act as the cheering baghdad civilians.

i'll reserve judgement to see if any reputable sources pick up on it.
 
Originally posted by ddtlm
Oh, but now that I see this is pseudobrit posting, I'm not surprised. First it's anti-war, then anti-cops in that one thread I remember, and now you insist on believing that the Iraqis are not actually happy. Now, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I'd be more impressed if your opinion appeared to change with the situation.
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Whilst pseudobrit has been a bit antagonistic at times - playing devils advocate - he has been quite consistent.
1. He doesn't think you should bomb and invade someone else's country without a good reason. He doesn't think securing oil supplies is a good reason. The real reason certainly is nothing to do with the liberation of the Iraqi people. Maybe for Tony Blair it is...
2. He doesn't rhink you should shoot at protesters without a good reason. The fact no police were injured and several protesters and bystanders were tends to suggest it was a bit one-sided.
3. He doesn't believe that everything in Iraq is somehow now magical and peaceful and that the destruction of a statue by a small gang is more representative of Iraq at the moment than the marauding armed gangs stealing anything not nailed down.
 
Originally posted by ddtlm
" Oh, but now that I see this is pseudobrit posting, I'm not surprised. First it's anti-war, then anti-cops in that one thread I remember, and now you insist on believing that the Iraqis are not actually happy. Now, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I'd be more impressed if your opinion appeared to change with the situation."

I presume that you yourself will keep a flexible opinion as news reaches you.
How about the fact that anarchy has broken out in Bagdad, with people (civilians) being lynched and stoned to death in the streets? How about hospitals being looted with incubators, dialysis machines, etc being wheeled out the doors by thugs? How about the reports that Iraqis are more terrified now than they were during the bombing. All this with US troops standing back taking no action whatsoever.
The source for these reports is the BBC. No doubt this is itself only part of the story but, as was said earlier, you really must try to look beyond the camera frame - being fed news like convenience food is not healthy.
 
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