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Lawsuit Filed After Apple's A12 and A13 Chips Hit With New Unpatchable Exploit
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zarmanto
macrumors 65816
I think you misread the article; this isn't about another class action against Apple. (Yet?)
Dr McKay
macrumors 601
True, once they’re in a case it’s especially difficult. For me I’m mostly clocking iPhones which still have the notch instead of the island
There is an analogue in personal injury law referred to as the eggshell plaintiff, which essentially means that you take the plaintiff as they are regardless of any extenuating or mitigating circumstances. If and when they get to damages, the plaintiff will need to show the actual or likely losses but for the disclosure of the trade secret. I wonder if they would find a sympathetic jury, though. They will have to convince the jury that the discovery of the vulnerability is valuable business information and why it is valuable. Just reading the complaint gives me pause; imagine what the testimony will be like. Obviously, they will shoot for a settlement instead.
danpass
macrumors 68030
Their business isn't based on high value targets -- it's based on selling comprehensive tools for law enforcement to tap into phones of regular and low-income people (i.e. being able to list on the spec sheet that they can unlock iPhone models 1 - 12, etc).
True high-value targets probably aren't using iPhones -- or even phones at all. They have people who talk to people who may use some sort of customized/modified phone far away from the high-value person.
djc6
macrumors 6502a
My Apple TV 4K (2nd gen; A2169) has an A12 processor. It’s connected to Internet 24x7 with an Ethernet cable - is this bug remotely exploitable?
dampfnudel
macrumors 603
Because there was no iPhone 9 and next year (2027) will mark the twentieth anniversary of the iPhone, some people believe it will be called the iPhone 20 Pro and 20 Pro Max. Next year’s iPhone is also rumored to feature a curved display.
dampfnudel
macrumors 603
My neighbor is still using an iPhone 11 and she seems to be satisfied with it. Maybe she’ll upgrade next year to an 18?
My daily driver is an iPhone 12 mini. It still works, why waste money on a replacement.
falainber
macrumors 68040
How do you know that this defect was not an issue when the device was launched? It's possible that bad actors have been exploiting the defect for all these years without advertising it (and why would they?)
SBlue1
macrumors 68020
Wow dude. People keep working phones longer. People buy used phones. People hand down old phones to kids. People use old phones as bases for home automations. People use old phones as backups. Millions of reasons to have functioning old devices.
inventor7777
macrumors member
Basically all home routers come with firewalls which block unsolicited incoming connections by default, so there is a very low chance unless you install malicious software on the ATV itself first, or if you've enabled complete port forwarding to the ATV (on the router).
Shareholders and the 🤣-posting individual will agree —the majority of current XS and 11 owners most likely won‘t.
Or were you suggesting to have the A12 or A13 chip replaced with an A14 or A15?
I totally agree with that because it reminded me how much I appreciate the fact that we can still have a problematic part in a car replaced without having to replace the whole car.
Killerbob
macrumors 68010
I am saying that there are enough functionality differences between an old iPhone 11 and a new iPhone 17, to warrant an upgrade, not to talk about battery performance after that long.
