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Chinese forums now published multiple photos of ipad air unboxing and even the disassemble of the mainboard and showing A7 chip inside.

Can anyone take a look at the A7 chip picture and see if we can confirm if the A7 in ipad air are running at higher frequency than iphone5s or even have 2G ram?

Here are the pictures

Disassembly pictures see attached pics below: (for a few more pictures and the original post see here )


For the unboxing pictures see original post here with pictures ), see google translated page here
 

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The A5X and A6X were silver in the big iPads. Still, I can't truly believe it yet until iFixit's teardown.
 
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It is too early to conclude anything as we are not even sure that this pictures (that look authentic) are not a fake.
By comparing the size of the chip with the A7 found in the iphone, it might be possible to identify some difference.
However until proper teardown, all of this willl remain speculation
 
I noticed the APL numbering is consistent with the 'X' series processors as well.

A7 (Air): APL5698
A6X: APL5598
A5X: APL5498

A7: APL0698
A6: APL0598
A5: APL0498
A4: APL0398
 
Beated....


In fact there is an interesting fact.
On the pictures, the reference is APL5698
On the A6x, it was APL5598
On the the A5X, it was APL5498.

On the A7, reference is APL0698
On the A6, reference is APL0598
On the A5, reference is APL0498


(Check ifixit if you don't believe me)

So if image are real, and if apple keep the same logic, the A7 chip find in the ipad air is an hidden A7X...
 
I think this is conclusive proof. Not only do we have Apple's performance claims, we now have the proper numbering and even color. All that's left is benchmarks but one can safely assume those will confirm these findings.
 
It will be interesting to find out what will be in the ipad mini retina.
One of the reason for Apple not to call the Ipad Air chip an A7X might be no to highlight that ipad mini retina "only" have the same A7 found in iphone 5s
 
So can anyone determine from these pics if we have 1 or 2 gigs of RAM?

I wonder if the big holdout from Apple is that the Air might have 2 gigs while the mini has 1?
 
I am ordering both 64gb verizon lte iPad air and iPad mini 2.

Than waiting for teardown. If same exact ram. Than I will return the iPad Air (I already have iPad 3 and iPad 4).

If iPad Air has 2GB ram and iPad mini retina has 1gb ram. Than will return the iPad mini retina.

That's my gameplan.
 
heat sink is consistent with A6X if I remember correctly.

what are the other chips like the one with engraving of 343s0655-A1 1334KHFZ
 
It will be interesting to find out what will be in the ipad mini retina.
One of the reason for Apple not to call the Ipad Air chip an A7X might be no to highlight that ipad mini retina "only" have the same A7 found in iphone 5s

If Apple's numbers are telling - and so far they have been - then both iPads use an identical chip distinct from that of the 5S. I doubt the Air will have a "hidden A7X," and the Mini a normal A7.
 
Not really,
the performance improvement mentioned for the retina iPad Mini (8x of ipad mini original) suggests that its A7 is only as fast as the one in the iPhone 5S.

So, the A7 in the Air should have faster graphics performance (2x of ipad 4) than the A7s in the iPhone 5S and retina iPad Mini.


If Apple's numbers are telling - and so far they have been - then both iPads use an identical chip distinct from that of the 5S. I doubt the Air will have a "hidden A7X," and the Mini a normal A7.
 
Not really,
the performance improvement mentioned for the retina iPad Mini (8x of ipad mini original) suggests that its A7 is only as fast as the one in the iPhone 5S.

So, the A7 in the Air should have faster graphics performance (2x of ipad 4) than the A7s in the iPhone 5S and retina iPad Mini.

How do you figure? 8x faster than the A5, so do the math: 2x faster is A5X, 4x faster is A6X, which means another speed-double would put us at twice the speed of the A6X, and the A7 in the 5S is NOT that chip.
 
Seriously people, do you hear yourselves? Calling a chip inside a tablet fake because you *think* it should be a different color?

I think all the posts calling fake are fake, made by fake people posing as posters to discredit the color silver.

That only sounds slightly more retarded than calling these photos fake.
 
There is a APl5698 chip image here?

Does it tell us more in terms of memory?

http://sz776.hqew.com/ec/ecview_22145812.html
 
It will be interesting to find out what will be in the ipad mini retina.
One of the reason for Apple not to call the Ipad Air chip an A7X might be no to highlight that ipad mini retina "only" have the same A7 found in iphone 5s

The problem with this statement is it contradicts apple statement about the mini GPU being 8X the current A5.

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Not really,
the performance improvement mentioned for the retina iPad Mini (8x of ipad mini original) suggests that its A7 is only as fast as the one in the iPhone 5S.

So, the A7 in the Air should have faster graphics performance (2x of ipad 4) than the A7s in the iPhone 5S and retina iPad Mini.


This is 100% wrong.

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There is a full thread here about how this doesn't match up
check out here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1658221/

That thread shows what you are stating is bogus and wrong. If the mini is 8X the A5 then it would be around were the A7 in the Air would be not the 5s.

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The A5 in the Mini is 16 Gflops

A minimum of 8*16 gives us 128 Gflops.

The A6X is 76 GFlops so 2X the A6X gives us 152 Gflops.

Apple tends to be very conservative so I would estimate the Gflops of the different A7s as

Iphone 5s: 76Gflops
Mini: 130 - 170 GFlops
Air: 150 -200 GFlops.

So the Mini and Air could be the same A7, or the Mini is clocked in between the two.
 
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