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that's what everyone is asking for: more performance on a watch. right? /s
Haha I am actually hoping for a bit more. I go running without my phone, and I use my watch with cellular. At the same time, I'm streaming spotify over cellular, and I'm using Strava to map my run. I find my SE2 lags a bit when I'm doing this, which is my daily use-case. I'm going to upgrade to an Ultra3 this year. I was hoping this year would have a big jump over the previous gen. Oh well.
 
the Ultra 3, if it launches this year will share the same S11 chip, which this article clearly says, will use the same processor as the S9,S10 and Ultra 2 (even if Apple does update the branding of it)
Re-read it closer. it's not the same processor. S10/S11 is not the same as S9 (ultra 2). Thinner profile allows for it to perform better. S10 and S9 share the same architecture but are still physically different SiP.
 
Apple really must have taken some lessons from the car companies during their Apple Car explorations.

Update the year and name ... but basically the same car being sold again.
 
I do it all the time, I'm not sure what performance increase I'd need for something so simple.
I have a first generation Apple Watch Ultra and it typically takes 10 seconds before it responds that the timer has been set. I'm not looking for faster animations or more processing power for opening apps, just speculating thatsimple usability will be increased if they upgrade the SOC
 
Re-read it closer. it's not the same processor. S10/S11 is not the same as S9 (ultra 2). Thinner profile allows for it to perform better. S10 and S9 share the same architecture but are still physically different SiP.
This is right. Architecture is not the same thing as no improvements in speed or capability. It could be packaged differently (thinner), it could have faster clock speed per core, more on chip cache etc. Over the past few decades, chips use the same architecture and iterate and improve upon that, and only every few years is a new architecture even necessary.
 
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I hope the lack of a faster processor means they will be including new features like blood pressure monitoring.

I don’t think the watch really needs a faster processor. My generation one ultra is totally fine except for a scratch on the “sapphire” crystal.
 
Does T8310 just denote the CPU, or everything on the SiP? I.e could it have focused on a bigger upgrade for the neural engine like going to 6 or 8 cores while the CPU and GPU are the same?
It’s the chip with the CPU, GPU and NPU on it so there will be no changes with those things. The SiP is essentially the entire motherboard for the watch though so things like the cellular modem, wifi and Bluetooth could be upgraded between the S10 and S11.
 
Re-read it closer. it's not the same processor. S10/S11 is not the same as S9 (ultra 2). Thinner profile allows for it to perform better. S10 and S9 share the same architecture but are still physically different SiP.
The SiP is the entire package, which is essentially a miniaturized motherboard. The chip at the heart of that SiP which contains the CPU, GPU and NPU is exactly the same chip in the S9, S10 and (based on this leak) S11. Other components on the SiP have changed such as the cellular modem, WiFi and Bluetooth chips, along with repackaging to make the overall SiP more compact, but there’s no change in processing performance. The thinner profile was about making a thinner Series 10 watch without compromising battery life.
 
Sooooo this means I am 100% skipping this year too.
The Series 6, 7, AND 8 will drop support at the same time, this means that the 9, 10 and 11 will too...
Yes. I would never buy the 3rd Apple Watch in the cycle of having the same chip as it will have the shortest support life. Best to upgrade when Apple introduces an actual new chip (hence why I have an Ultra 2).
 
The SiP is the entire package, which is essentially a miniaturized motherboard. The chip at the heart of that SiP which contains the CPU, GPU and NPU is exactly the same chip in the S9, S10 and (based on this leak) S11. Other components on the SiP have changed such as the cellular modem, WiFi and Bluetooth chips, along with repackaging to make the overall SiP more compact, but there’s no change in processing performance. The thinner profile was about making a thinner Series 10 watch without compromising battery life.
Don't need a lecture. I know what it means to have the same architecture but a thinner profile.

Series 10 increased battery life over Series 9. Also S10 integrates the OLED controller into the chip, improving efficiency and frees up even more space. Literally performing better. I don't know what you're trying to argue about.


 
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Don't need a lecture. I know what it means to have the same architecture but a thinner profile.

Series 10 increased battery life over Series 9. Also S10 integrates the OLED controller into the chip, improving efficiency and frees up even more space. Literally performing better. I don't know what you're trying to argue about.


No one knows what you are trying to argue about. What you are saying is equivalent to claiming the iPhone 15 has better performance than the iPhone 14 Pro because it has a bigger battery. No, it has better battery life, not performance. To me performance is a a measure of the processing power and the processing power is the same.
 
I can feel a new colour coming, will definitely have a name that doesn't really describe what it actually looks like, like 'moonbeam' or 'sunrise'
 
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