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I'm always amused when people try to remove stuff from the Internet.

It's futile every single time, yet they keep trying.

Like banging your head on a brick wall to try to break into a bank. Why do they even bother? They should accept that once something is on the net, it's there to stay. Trying to take it down just means people will try harder to distribute it.
 
So what about Soundtrack Pro, probably one of the biggest dogs Apple has ever released? Is it getting a serious update? And if so, will it be available to Logic users (who have it included in the package)? I hope it finally gets to a usable state, and I don't want to have to fork out just to find out if it's worth getting or not.

I'm personally hoping for Logic to take over all of Soundtrack Pro's features
 
Man, more news on FCPX can't come soon enough. Heck, the release can't come soon enough.

I completely agree. The current Final Cut is an antiquated mess. I was excited by the FC demo and think Apple is on the right track with this. But I wonder what took them so long to make it happen.

I'm personally hoping for Logic to take over all of Soundtrack Pro's features

I'm hoping that Logic is the next pro app to get a complete rebuild. It too is showing its age.
 
Help a noob out, what are the differences?

To put it simply, modeling is creating animated forms / images, compositing is layering different images on top of each other to build a scene, and editing is cutting the shots to tell the story.

Maya is an example of 3D modeling software, and Nuke is for compositing. Avid, Final Cut, and Premiere are used for non-linear editing (NLE). After Effects is also used for compositing and motion graphics, but not the same way Nuke and Fusion do it.
 
I completely agree. The current Final Cut is an antiquated mess. I was excited by the FC demo and think Apple is on the right track with this. But I wonder what took them so long to make it happen.

Things basically got sidetracked when Apple abandoned it's Carbon 64 bit initiative. The theory is FCP7 was to be 64bit, but the whole thing got canned and they had to basically start over in 2009 with cocoa and A/V Foundation. That's why FCS4 seems like such a half-hearted release-

Check out Philip Hodgett's blog- he covers this in a lot more detail.

http://www.philiphodgetts.com/category/business/apple/

He's been writing articles and tracking progress on this since '09. And he actually called the whole A/V foundation thing last fall, though he was convinced that it would mean FCPX wouldn't be able to be released until after Lion, since A/V Foundation becomes a much more core component of the OS with 10.7. But as it turns out the ProApps team was able to bundle it into FCPX itself. This was probably because it wasn't clear at that point in development how far ahead of Lion FCPX would ship.
 
I'm personally hoping for Logic to take over all of Soundtrack Pro's features

Bingo. Like it should have done from the beginning. Adding another audio app was just stupid.

Btw, I saw something that said June 9th for the release date. It seemed really fishy and unreliable, but I'm still holding out hope because I REALLY hope it's true.
 
Hahahahahaha! Haaa-haaa-haaa-haa! Hahahahaha.. oh man! You people kill me! :D

Final Cut Pro X - $300
Adobe Premiere Pro (With After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash and Audition) w/ an Education Discount (who doesn't know somebody working in education?): $500
Nuke: $4900 for just the NLE software alone! Forget Nuke X which adds camera tracking and Furnace, which is $8000!!!

Are you people out of your mind? :p The VAST majority of users out there are going to use Adobe, Apple, or Avid because of the cost, and most small shops do too. Only large Special FX places and production houses are going to use Nuke, and many still will not use Nuke. The rest of the planet that works in this huge indsutry is going to use the lower priced NLE's which interface fine with Maya, tracking software, and color correction tools, even if Nuke is more flexible on the extreme high end.

Keep going though with that whole thing about the entire motion graphics, video, and film industry going to Nuke. I need to laugh in this business more.

It seems you don't know the difference between a compositor and NLE.

Nuke replaced Shake - that's what the comment said. And it did. Nowhere did the comment imply that Adobe After Effects or any of the NLEs were being replaced by Nuke.

It's obvious that if you just want motion graphics for spinning text or title screens you wouldn't use Nuke - that's not what it's designed for. It's a hard-core 2D/3D compositor, and thus it's priced as such.
 
Wow, I was excited back in April about the announcement. Apple drags on too much and now I'm 100% into production, ya'know, out in the field shooting stuff, gearing up for summer under the sun and outta the suite. Maybe come autumn FCPX will be something of interest again.
 
Need DVD authoring...

I expect DVD SP to be gone

That's what I am worried about....

I need to be able to create DVDs. People always seem to say Apple is killing the DVD, but tell that to my clients who want a DVD of their Wedding video. They don't want a YouTube version....

I hope Apple comes up with something for DVDs. Anyone got any alternatives? (Compressor > Toast)? PC DVD program (ouch)? Video etched in stone (that might be kind of cool)?
 
So.....all pro apps have a grey interface different from normal apps? Or just this one? At least the maximize minimize buttons are where they're supposed to be - along with their Aqua interface....:rolleyes:
 
That's what I am worried about....

I need to be able to create DVDs. People always seem to say Apple is killing the DVD, but tell that to my clients who want a DVD of their Wedding video. They don't want a YouTube version....

I hope Apple comes up with something for DVDs. Anyone got any alternatives? (Compressor > Toast)? PC DVD program (ouch)? Video etched in stone (that might be kind of cool)?
Absolutely. I think Apple's way off the mark if they assume that all video is being delivered via 'the (i)cloud'. Clients want something tangible that they can hold and pass around, not streaming video.
 
I wonder if FCPX will have full screen support like many of the new Lion apps...?

Not sure, it seems you may need the menu bar for some tasks.

The NAB demo certainly showed FCPx running in a full screen mode.

Well as full screen as the current version does. I think the question is will it run in full screen like the new iPhoto in OSX Lion which does not show a menu bar (a true full screen). The FCPX demo shows a menu bar at the top thus not really the full screen that is now the hype.
 
That's what I am worried about....

I need to be able to create DVDs. People always seem to say Apple is killing the DVD, but tell that to my clients who want a DVD of their Wedding video. They don't want a YouTube version....

I hope Apple comes up with something for DVDs. Anyone got any alternatives? (Compressor > Toast)? PC DVD program (ouch)? Video etched in stone (that might be kind of cool)?

I think your alternative is to just keep using your current version of DVD SP with the new version of Final Cut, assuming they don't release a new version. Your old version won't go away.
 
Wonder if we will ever get a system-wide dark-GUI in OS X like this.
I was really hoping to see it in Lion. Of course it didn't happen.
 
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