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Sure, but how does that matter as a source of leaks? If anything, the lockdown has eliminated a major vector for leaks— loose talk over meals and drinks in public places.

I’m pretty sure leaks are coming from the same place they always did: suppliers and former employees.

Leaking, say, a schematic is far easier when you have it downloaded (or can screenshot it) from your home, with your own Internet connection, than at work, where there's the risk that IT will surveil you.
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You are 100% correct, I still have yet to understand why the base $1099 iMac is being sold with a dual-core 15w TDP mobile CPU when they could simply use the same motherboard as the $1299 4K model, or get rid of the $1299 and lower the cost of the $1299 to $1099 given that it comes standard with a 5400RPM HDD IN 2019, WTF?!?! So, yes, weird things never have stopped Apple before.

To be clear, "hasn't stopped Apple" referred specifically to selling the iMac at all, i.e. an AIO product. By its nature, it includes a display, which if you care about performance outlasts several of the other components (such as the CPU) by years. (And right now, oddly enough, would be hands down one of the best Retina displays for any Mac, if only you could buy it separately.)

I was making that point as a response to putting a beefy GPU in the Mac mini: yeah, GPUs become obsolete faster than many of the other components, especially if you choose a high-end GPU. But I don't think "some components last longer than others" is a sufficient argument to keep Apple from making an integrated product.

We may be blessed with x4 extra lanes in Rocket Lake-S, but by the time that comes out, Apple will have the mini on ARM/Arm, making it a moot point by then.

Iiiiiii don't know about that.
 
Sure, but how does that matter as a source of leaks? If anything, the lockdown has eliminated a major vector for leaks— loose talk over meals and drinks in public places.

I’m pretty sure leaks are coming from the same place they always did: suppliers and former employees.

Working from home means more leaks because presentations and meetings can be recorded. Pre-production hardware is brought home to be worked on.

Before, you could present sensitive information to a group and be confident it wasn't photographed or recorded. Presentation attendees would have to rely on memory to describe what the iPhone 5G notch looked like. Today, you can photograph it.
 
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Really hoping to see an AppleTV with controller bundle. The AppleTV is already a highly competitive “console”, but without controllers coming by default developers are (rightly) ignoring the platform.

Highly competitive with what? App store and arcade games aren’t even on the same planet as Xbox, PS4 or Switch. Even Xbox 360 or PS3 destroy Apple TV when it comes to gaming.
 
The Intel Mac mini has never had a discrete GPU with the exception of the Mid 2011 model (ATI Radeon 6630M). You are asking for something that is not a Mac mini once they revamp the chassis for a dGPU.

...what does it matter what happened in the past? It's 2020. People have 4k and 5k displays, which need a half-decent GPU and dedicated VRAM to work smoothly in scaled mode (almost compulsory for usable scaling on 27" 4k displays under MacOS) - instead the Mac Mini gives you Intel's bare minimum iGPU, designed for desktop machines with PCIe slots which will have dGPUs fitted for anything but the most basic of graphics.

The old Intel Mac Mini had to fit in a spinning rust hard-drive and an optical drive (or second HD). Apple could have used that space to fit a dGPU... or a mobile CPU with Iris Pro/Plus graphics, or one of those Intel/Radeon hybrid processors with in-package GPUs... instead they used it to fit a whopping great heatsink so they could switch to cheaper desktop CPUs (compared to the modern options at the same price-points of the old mobile CPUs) starting with an even cheaper i3 in the entry model and still hiked up the price (gotta hand it to them... and for some reason, people do...)

As for eGPUs... maybe they have some point when used to give a laptop super-powers when it's home on the desk, but I can't apprehend what permutation of misconceptions leads to the idea of paying a premium for a small-form-factor desktop (with all the disadvantages that entails, such as no space for extra internal storage and having to take the back axle off to upgrade the RAM) and then having to sit a honking great eGPU enclosure (another wall-wart, another cable on the desk, plus all the caveats about eGPU compatibility..., $200+ on top of the cost of your graphics card) alongside it...

Oh, wait, yes, I know why - because you want to run MacOS and Apple wants $6000 (wheels extra) for a machine with PCIe slots.

Don't get me wrong - if you've invested $$$$ in custom racks for Mac Mini co-location and want a new Mac Mini to put in them, the 2018 mini is perfect... Not sure what else it is good for, though, other than as a highly unsatisfactory stand-in for the straightforward desktop Mac that Apple refuses to make.
 
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...what does it matter what happened in the past? It's 2020. People have 4k and 5k displays, which need a half-decent GPU and dedicated VRAM to work smoothly in scaled mode (almost compulsory for usable scaling on 27" 4k displays under MacOS) - instead the Mac Mini gives you Intel's bare minimum iGPU, designed for desktop machines with PCIe slots which will have dGPUs fitted for anything but the most basic of graphics.

The old Intel Mac Mini had to fit in a spinning rust hard-drive and an optical drive (or second HD). Apple could have used that space to fit a dGPU... or a mobile CPU with Iris Pro/Plus graphics, or one of those Intel/Radeon hybrid processors with in-package GPUs... instead they used it to fit a whopping great heatsink so they could switch to cheaper desktop CPUs (compared to the modern options at the same price-points of the old mobile CPUs) starting with an even cheaper i3 in the entry model and still hiked up the price (gotta hand it to them... and for some reason, people do...)

As for eGPUs... maybe they have some point when used to give a laptop super-powers when it's home on the desk, but I can't apprehend what permutation of misconceptions leads to the idea of paying a premium for a small-form-factor desktop (with all the disadvantages that entails, such as no space for extra internal storage and having to take the back axle off to upgrade the RAM) and then having to sit a honking great eGPU enclosure (another wall-wart, another cable on the desk, plus all the caveats about eGPU compatibility..., $200+ on top of the cost of your graphics card) alongside it...

Oh, wait, yes, I know why - because you want to run MacOS and Apple wants $6000 (wheels extra) for a machine with PCIe slots.

Don't get me wrong - if you've invested $$$$ in custom racks for Mac Mini co-location and want a new Mac Mini to put in them, the 2018 mini is perfect... Not sure what else it is good for, though, other than as a highly unsatisfactory stand-in for the straightforward desktop Mac that Apple refuses to make.
If you watch Apple long enough, then you know that Apple‘s past informs their present and most likely their future.

No argument that the desktop CPU Apple chose to use lack a meaningful GPU, yet Intel used to equip their S-Series CPUs with Iris Pro iGPUs.

Could Apple use a dGPU in that chassis? Possibly. Will they? Maybe. I can try to predict based on past behavior, but I’m not God.

The bottom line is that if you don’t need a dGPU, the mini provides a pretty compelling package.

An eGPU is an option for all users if they want one in the future, but plenty of people will run the mini with the iGPU only. Not just devs or hosting houses, but regular, everyday people. They have expansion options available or they can move up to an iMac if they decide. Yes, Apple has a hole in their desktop lineup, but they are squarely focused on mobile devices, no matter the OS (iOS or macOS). That’s just a fact that doesn’t seem to have a satisfactory resolution for some people. Apple seems okay with that.
 
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Sure, but how does that matter as a source of leaks? If anything, the lockdown has eliminated a major vector for leaks— loose talk over meals and drinks in public places.

I’m pretty sure leaks are coming from the same place they always did: suppliers and former employees.
Except that now you are effectively a prisoner of your own house, with access to a wide variety of chat services and forums.

Different channels, same old problem.
 
New PCH (400-Series) and new LGA-1200 socket, with the 500-Series PCH rumored for the next rev (Rocket Lake-S) and the way Intel basically only gives you two generations of CPU per socket before switching to something else, it does make one begin to wonder if Apple will update the iMac once or twice more with the current chassis and introduce a new ARM/Arm-based iMac in 2022. They really know that the mobile devices (MacBook, MB Air and MBP Pro) need to be ARM-equipped first before proceeding to desktop Macs, so we may see the current chassis live on for another 2-3 years, which should drive a few people around here to drink or the insane asylum. Fun times!

The flip side is, while Apple really cram a 125w TDP CPU into an 8 year old chassis and will I be able to cook a grilled cheese sandwich on it.
One rumor I read mentioned that the 125W part will have a 95W TDP-down, but that still requires redesigning for the new socket. Presumably the chipset as well.
 
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Don’t see the underscreem Touch ID or game controller happening.

Hmmm idk.

Apple has put several technologies in the iPad first and then to iPhone later. iPad is also big enough to put whatever the under screen tech requires.

Apple is also getting more and more serious about Apple TV and people seem to love Apple Arcade. Their own controller doesn’t sound too far fetched. They make a remote for the Apple TV, they can make a sleek game controller.
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I’m really excited to FINALLY see a flagship blue iPhone. Midnight Green is nice, but we need a nice navy/deep blue. Excited to see the Apple headphones too.
 
Apple has put several technologies in the iPad first and then to iPhone later. iPad is also big enough to put whatever the under screen tech requires.
I think people misinterpret FaceID. The idea isn't to spend time analyzing how it works or whether it's slower than TouchID or not. The idea is that it blurs the perception of needing authentication at all to unlock your phone.

I think what Apple was going for was using FaceID to take care of all the security stuff behind the scenes so you don't have too. It removes having to think about authenticating to access something because faceID has already detected that it is you.

What you're left with is a device that is as easy to access as one without a passcode. No longer do you have to go through security checks because it is all done automatically, and it seems pretty seamless when it works.

Going back to touch-ID feels like a step back in this context, especially if you are embedding it under the display, because then, you have a very abstract location that you have to specifically look for just so you can rest your finger on. And unlike a smartphone, an iPad has even less of a default orientation. Face ID will let you unlock your iPad no matter how you hold it. Not so much with an under-display fingerprint sensor.

Apple is also getting more and more serious about Apple TV and people seem to love Apple Arcade. Their own controller doesn’t sound too far fetched. They make a remote for the Apple TV, they can make a sleek game controller.
I guess I am not convinced as to what Apple can do with a game controller to make it stand out from the rest of the competition. They have already opened up the Apple TV to console game controllers, and there are a few third brands like steelseries floating around, so it doesn't feel like this is a market Apple needs to compete in.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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One rumor I read mentioned that the 125W part will have a 95W TDP-down, but that still requires redesigning for the new socket. Presumably the chipset as well.
Yes, the Z490 PCH (how original). ASUS has already started self-leaking their new LGA1200 Comet Lake motherboards as of last week via WCCFTech. Haven’t heard much about the Core i9-10900K yet, which I assume Apple will use and the TDP down seems plausible enough considering the 10900K is rumored to use up to 250w in routine usage. Other than the incidental loss of x86 compatibility, I am past ready for Apple to move to ARM/Arm.
 
I think people misinterpret FaceID. The idea isn't to spend time analyzing how it works or whether it's slower than TouchID or not. The idea is that it blurs the perception of needing authentication at all to unlock your phone.

I think what Apple was going for was using FaceID to take care of all the security stuff behind the scenes so you don't have too. It removes having to think about authenticating to access something because faceID has already detected that it is you.

What you're left with is a device that is as easy to access as one without a passcode. No longer do you have to go through security checks because it is all done automatically, and it seems pretty seamless when it works.

Going back to touch-ID feels like a step back in this context, especially if you are embedding it under the display, because then, you have a very abstract location that you have to specifically look for just so you can rest your finger on. And unlike a smartphone, an iPad has even less of a default orientation. Face ID will let you unlock your iPad no matter how you hold it. Not so much with an under-display fingerprint sensor.


I guess I am not convinced as to what Apple can do with a game controller to make it stand out from the rest of the competition. They have already opened up the Apple TV to console game controllers, and there are a few third brands like steelseries floating around, so it doesn't feel like this is a market Apple needs to compete in.

Just my 2 cents.

Yeah I hear you. My understanding of under-the-screen Touch ID would be that the whole bottom portion of the display could be used. Thus, putting your finger anywhere and not just in a specific spot. A big sensor with wide surface area. That way it’s all behind the scenes and you forget about it even though you’re placing a finger on the display.

In regards to the controller; I’m not totally convinced it’s coming, but I would not be surprised if it is. 3rd party controllers work fine, but if Apple wants to tout the gaming aspect then it would look great if they make the Apple TV more powerful AND have their own controller.

It would show that they’re really taking gaming seriously. Then they can get all the controller profits.
 
Not sure why this leaker account mentions iPhone12 lite and iPhone12 6.1 instead of iPhone12 5.4 and iPhone12 6.1
Would it possibly mean that the iPhone 12 5.4 would be a "lite" version with less features than the "standard" iPhone 12 6.1?
That wouldn't be a good thing because I'd definitely downsize from my iPhone 11 6.1 to an iPhone 12 5.4
I think that 5.4 is a size that fits better in the hand/pocket
 
A device like this has the potential to cannibalize the iPad Pro lineup.
Apple has never cared about any of its products cannibalizing the other as long as its their own products, its A-Okay. In recent years, they have wanted you to buy more products from them, but its not required. The iPhone certainly cannibalized the iPod. If you look at the pie chart of Apple products, its the iPhone that dominates. Apples approach with the A Series MacBook is to define it as a product that provides superior battery life, a wealth of great iPad apps, the power of the macOS desktop, super fast and mobile. Likely key differentiators, it will have Face ID, includes LTE. These will be the key differentiators from the iPad Pro and Intel MacBooks.
 
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I love this Apple under Tim, He does everything to make the user base happy, and does fullfil the demands. The handoff in Apple is untouchable by the competotors. So is Marzipan. And now with Controller and stuff i am impressed and so should Apples competitors be.
 
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Having had to wear a facemask every time i go out while also standing in lines looking at my phone, i REALLY hope Apple puts Touch ID back in the iPhone. Face ID works great... when the phone can see your whole face. But you can't add an alt face with a mask on so now you have to wait until the face ID fails then enter your passcode every time. This is obviously a very minor inconvenience, especially in the current situation. but if we're making a wishlist...

Agreed, the ultrasonic fingerprint can be located on the right side of the middle screen on the tablet instead of bottom. Doubt Apple even though about that when it is implementing the new touch ID!
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I love this Apple under Tim, He does everything to make the user base happy, and does fullfil the demands. The handoff in Apple is untouchable by the competotors. So is Marzipan. And now with Controller and stuff i am impressed and so should Apples competitors be.

You must be living under the rock and Tim Cook know what is bad for the customer.
 
The average person doesn’t install Windows on a Mac, let alone game on it. There’s little usage of—or demand for—Windows on Mac, and gamer demand for relatively expensive Mac hardware won’t move that needle at all, imo.
I think this is a typical case of confusing cause and effect.
Of course no one is using it for said purpose because building a Mac that has decent GPU power costs 6+ times that of a PC.
 
I think this is a typical case of confusing cause and effect.
Of course no one is using it for said purpose because building a Mac that has decent GPU power costs 6+ times that of a PC.
I’m not confusing anything for anything. Did you miss the part where I said “gamer demand for relatively expensive Mac hardware won’t move that needle at all”.

Apple isn’t interested in pursuing PC-based gamers, period. They are not going to make a cheap tower, that is that.

btw everything you’ve seen and will see for probably the next 1.5-2 years is a Jony Ive design or at the very least blessed by Ive. Apple works years ahead.
 
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