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Leaker Claims Mobile Version of Xcode Coming to iPad
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O my, what a drama. Apple will dumb down to some dummy interface again. Just like IOS is not a proper OS as far as I am concerned. So what's next Apple: xcode on Apple Watch? You are basically inventing something we have been having for years: a (detachable) laptop. In my eyes it is a farce. Get back to creating a professional platform for professional applications with professional tools and professional quality. Not playing stuff for kids. What a shame, what a disaster.
I don't believe there's any problem with including a JVM in your app. JetBrains (developer of IntelliJ) actually develops their own JVM, don't they? So they should have everything they need to compile it for iOS/ARM if they want to...
Won’t be surprised in 5-10 years where we don’t see macbooks at all. The iPad will be all in one computer.
With an external (second) monitor, the Magic Keyboard with its keyboard/trackpad support, the iPad Pro should really hold its own and be fine for xCode. Remember, Apple makes A-Series SoCs do everything fast. Think of editing a 4K video on the iPad Pro, it can do things actually faster than your 16” MacBook Pro. I suspect a lot of people will be surprised with the capabilities when xCode for iPadOS is released.
I wasn’t aware that it was a custom JVM, only that they bundled it. Either way, knowing Apple, they’d only allow native apps to run. It’s easier from a sand boxing perspective, rather than JVM needing to support new graphical and system APIs.
There's already terminal apps available for iOS. They don't do everything the macOS terminal does, but I don't think you actually need to be able to do everything that the terminal can do.
Yes - support of external screens is certainly necessary. USB beyond keyboard and pointer...I'm not sure those are actually needed. I've got all these ports on my (work) MacBook Pro, and the only thing I actually plug into them is power and a monitor.
I could see a mini version of Xcode being useful. A mini version which allows for source edits, or swiftUi modifications. Synced with Git or something then connecting to you home Mac for compilation. This would be useful for quick fixes probably, but I doubt major development could happen on it.. Although I believe that you have to start somewhere and maybe in the future it would be come super powerful.
Developers really want to design, code and debug apps using a 11/12" display? Not an app developer, but I'd much rather use the display of my 27" 5K iMac.
iPad Pro + external display. Now, what we need is a true native handling of external displays in iPadOS, not just mirroring the iPad screen with black vertical bands on each side.
I really hope this is true. As a developer myself, I envy folks who can do their job on an iPad (Pro). I'm not saying having XCode on iPadOS means I'd get rid of my MacBook Pro but I'm hoping it will start the trend of more developer tools, other big IDEs, and whatnot to start coming over. Of course, we'll also need an official Terminal app (and not the dumbed down ones on the app store that are basically just for ssh'ing into some other computer).
Apple needs to prove the iPad Pro deserves to have "Pro" in the name by porting their own Pro-level apps over to it.
Oh how I'd love to plug an iPad Pro into a 34+" ultra wide and be able to natively use all that real estate.
Apple needs to prove the iPad Pro deserves to have "Pro" in the name by porting their own Pro-level apps over to it.
Oh how I'd love to plug an iPad Pro into a 34+" ultra wide and be able to natively use all that real estate.
I know. I was speculating whether it would be limited in any way if this rumour is true, e.g. to 12.9” models only or 6GB RAM only.
If they announce it at WWDC, they can do it to 12.9” only, else maybe it’s a new feature with an A13 processor iPad Pro
Yes, otherwise those 3GB iPad Airs and 4GB iPad Pros would choke. Apple will start with a light version, then gradually improve it over the years, it's more reasonable.
Would be a bad news, at least the 11" should be supported as well. I don't want apps to be exclusive to the bigger iPad, for a lot of people including me the 12.9 is too big and heavy.
Yeah I doubt it would be limited as would fragment the lineup, but I expect it would be a lot better experience on the 12.9. Would expect the UI to at least make use of another panel on screen, like how Mail is three-paned on the 12.9”. I find the bigger Pro too big as an iPad as well, but as a MacBook replacement it’s a different story.
Xcode for iPad OS just like Logic Pro X Remote for iPad OS--very limited. Expect it to be a test apparatus directly via the iPad OS.
Not only that, some talk as if Apple doesn’t continually bring improvements to the ipad and it’s ecosystem. It doesn’t sit still. The ipad has a lot of room to grow and improve. The Mac along with Intel hit dead ends..
This is very exciting! Might I also venture that this clears the way for ARM processors deeper into the Apple lineup, too? If you can run Xcode on an ARM processor that means possible cross compiling to ARM Macs and iOS / iPad OS / AppleTV, etc. VERY interesting news.
For what it’s worth, my iPad 12.9” is my favorite Mac at the moment!
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This is a good point. Apple, unlike most companies, usually disrupts itself instead of allowing others to do so. The obvious examples are iPods to iPhones and iPads. Anyone that uses an iPad and takes it half seriously knows the potential for it to ultimately disrupt the old guard. I think we’ve all wondered how long it would take for iOS / iPadOS to become the dominant player. When the lines are blurred, it’s ultimately a good thing for consumers and for Apple’s financial health to not be left in the dust. It is slowly taking place and they’re placing bets all along the way to more portable computing and wearables.
For what it’s worth, my iPad 12.9” is my favorite Mac at the moment!
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This is a good point. Apple, unlike most companies, usually disrupts itself instead of allowing others to do so. The obvious examples are iPods to iPhones and iPads. Anyone that uses an iPad and takes it half seriously knows the potential for it to ultimately disrupt the old guard. I think we’ve all wondered how long it would take for iOS / iPadOS to become the dominant player. When the lines are blurred, it’s ultimately a good thing for consumers and for Apple’s financial health to not be left in the dust. It is slowly taking place and they’re placing bets all along the way to more portable computing and wearables.
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No, but is that really necessary? It seems like the only two things I ever do in a terminal on a development machine are use it as a calculator or ssh into another system. Anything else that I do is something that could be done as a button in an IDE (possibly requiring a plugin to give me the button.)
For me that would be absolutely necessary. I don't see much point in a terminal without filesystem access. For calculator and SSH there's already many capable apps
We could connect an external display, keyboard, mouse. Obviously they would open up execution restrictions for devs as well, otherwise you could run any code.