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iOS learning x-code .. need advice !

rashidyn said:
but my plan is to learn how to use visual studio ( having an idea only )
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Except Visual Studio is not a programming language; it's an integrated development environment or IDE. Similar to Xcode but on the Windows side of things. Until you understand the difference between an IDE and a programming language, I think you are going to have difficulties learning how to program, or even asking the right questions when you try to seek help.
 
dejo said:
Except Visual Studio is not a programming language; it's an integrated development environment or IDE. Similar to Xcode but on the Windows side of things. Until you understand the difference between an IDE and a programming language, I think you are going to have difficulties learning how to program, or even asking the right questions when you try to seek help.
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i exactly know what is visual studio and i said "how to use it" not learn it's a language .. and as you said it's a tool that can teach me a programming language same as x-code could teach me a programming language .. i know what you mean and i think you misunderstood me many times & i don't know why !! :)
 
rashidyn said:
i exactly know what is visual studio and i said "how to use it" not learn it's a language .. and as you said it's a tool that can teach me a programming language same as x-code could teach me a programming language .. i know what you mean and i think you misunderstood me many times & i don't know why !! :)
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I advise you to stay away from an IDE until you've learned a language. It seems like beginners often confuse features of a language with features of an IDE if they're learning both at once.

Windows computers come with the a terminal program already installed, right? I want to say it's called Console or cmd or something...

Anyways, get a C compiler installed (like MinGW? Is that still the current best C compiler for Windows?) and a text editor (like gEdit or Sublime) and use those to test programs. You could have Hello World done within an hour or two.

Nobody learns how to write their first programs just by reading a book or listening to lectures - you have to actually write them and do the exercises in the books or given by the lecturer.
 
ArtOfWarfare said:
I advise you to stay away from an IDE until you've learned a language. It seems like beginners often confuse features of a language with features of an IDE if they're learning both at once.
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nice point to say .. i thought that also but (dejo) made me feel that it's a bit easier than i thought .. so i thought about giving it a try :)
 
dejo said:
Alright.

Let me ask again: What programming language are you planning on learning first?
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alright .. let me reply again :D .. all what i know that the language i need to learn is the C ( which is a mac only so that's delayed ) .. and as i'm on windows now so i downloaded visual studio program and course to learn only some basics about programming whatever the language i use it for ( which i don't know yet )
but i'm pretty interested in learning at least the basics of java even if i won't need it after that :)
 
so i think that's a good thing .. can it be written on visual studio ?!
 
that's great .. and i think that learning c will make it easier to learn any other language ?! .. and i have a kind of stupid question :D .. what languages can i use to write ios apps or tweaks ?! and what languages take advantages on others ?!
 
rashidyn said:
that's great .. and i think that learning c will make it easier to learn any other language ?! .. and i have a kind of stupid question :D .. what languages can i use to write ios apps or tweaks ?! and what languages take advantages on others ?!
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Go back and read my first post in this thread. I provided that info.
 
learning x-code .. need advice !

i know that you've written many languages that can be used .. but i want to know which take advantages ( beside objective c ) .. also i understood from ur post that i can use many languages in developing one app .. is that right or i misunderstood u ?!
 
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rashidyn said:
and i think that learning c will make it easier to learn any other language ?!
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My personal view is that C is not a great first language. You should look at something more tailored towards first-time programmers. BASIC, maybe? Perhaps look for a book that is written for children learning to program. Start there. Spend some time just getting comfortable with the fundamentals of programming.
 
learning x-code .. need advice !

what's ur suggestion then about the (basic) language i should start with ?!
 
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