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Leave it to teenagers to find a new game with Red light Cameras

Mr. Durden said:
Haha. Thats exactly what we were trying to do, but alas, the road just wasnt long enough. Or our cars werent fast enough...

Im guessing that triple digits triggers some sort of self destruct mechanism in which the blast also takes out the speeding vehicle. You know, in the interest of public safety. :rolleyes:
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It should result in an immediate removal of your driving privileges.
 
robanga said:
Some misguided soul ( or idiot if you prefer) always think that yellow means speed up no matter if they are 1/4 of a block from the light. They think the 45 seconds they will gain from not stopping is somehow worth it.
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Where I'm from we call that "new jersey style" driving. :p
 
Mr. Durden said:
Not likely. This is not communist Russia.
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Congratulations, you win today's nonsense post prize.

OutThere said:
Where I'm from we call that "new jersey style" driving. :p
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Hey, I learned to drive in New Jersey. It's definitely a different driving scene than California where I now live, but I've got to tell you, I never saw as many red light runners in New Jersey as I do here.
 
IJ Reilly said:
Congratulations, you win today's nonsense post prize.
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Lighten up. Its the holidays. And by the way, that post did make sense. This ISN'T cummunist russia, and a person will NEVER lose their license for getting a single speeding ticket in that situation. So you, sir (or miss) are clearly not making any sense at all. Use your mind. Or at least make an effort to do so.

Thank you, and that is all. I consider this case closed, and I accept your apology.
 
Mr. Durden said:
and a person will NEVER lose their license for getting a single speeding ticket in that situation.
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To be fair to IJ, he's probably thinking that going a buck-o-five in a 35mph zone will get you a lot more than a speeding ticket. ;)
 
dmr727 said:
To be fair to IJ, he's probably thinking that going a buck-o-five in a 35mph zone will get you a lot more than a speeding ticket. ;)
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True. Im sure it would. And rightfully so. And... I'll bet you wouldnt lose your license over it. By the way, Im just having fun with him. Slow day at work and nothing to do. You know what they say about idle hands...
 
Doing over 100mph in a 30mph zone (which is where these speed indicator signs seem to be) should be enough to be banned from driving.

However, I agree, speed and red light cameras don't replace Patrol cars, as Police Officers have discretion. Cameras do not.
 
Mr. Durden said:
True. Im sure it would. And rightfully so. And... I'll bet you wouldnt lose your license over it. By the way, Im just having fun with him. Slow day at work and nothing to do. You know what they say about idle hands...
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Actually in many if not most states, your license would be suspended for speeding that much over the limit, they would also tack on reckless driving in many states. The length of the suspension would either be per a standard table or left up to the discretion of a judge. If you had multiple offenses you could lose the privilege, the same as drunk driving.
 
Throw the book at the speeders - break the law, pay. Simple.

As always there is a problem inherent in the system, as it seems.. stupid kids.
 
Some cities have been caught shortening their yellow light times in order to catch more people running red lights (and therefore generate more revenue)...
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i guess i'm not the only one that notices that..f**kers.
 
so there are more and more of these popping up all over Chicago.
i've gotten it once due to slow moving traffic and being behind a truck.
as of right now the city only puts them in at the 'problematic' intersections, and in some cases i can understand. they do not record speed, but only redlight violations.

cant say that i completely agree with them. but when i see people running led lights all over the place i feel less bad about it really.
 
bobfitz14 said:
i guess i'm not the only one that notices that..f**kers.
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The yellow was meant for a warning to clear the intersection, every sixteen year old is taught that. If they are making it impossible to safely stop at the speed limit that is an issue.

But herein lies the issue, people think that going the speed limit is somehow
" caving in to the man"
 
robanga said:
The yellow was meant for a warning to clear the intersection, every sixteen year old is taught that. If they are making it impossible to safely stop at the speed limit that is an issue.

But herein lies the issue, people think that going the speed limit is somehow
" caving in to the man"
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i realize the yellow means warning, and it is dumb that they are making the warning shorter just to rake in a much needed cash.
 
Driving is not a right, it's a privilege. That's one of the first things you're supposed to learn about driving. To be allowed to carry that piece of plastic in your wallet which permits you to share the road with everybody else, you agree to at least try to abide by the rules. If you show by your behavior that you aren't interested in keeping up your side of the bargain, then you've voluntarily surrendered that privilege. It's not really a complicated deal.
 
robanga said:
Actually in many if not most states, your license would be suspended for speeding that much over the limit, they would also tack on reckless driving in many states. The length of the suspension would either be per a standard table or left up to the discretion of a judge. If you had multiple offenses you could lose the privilege, the same as drunk driving.
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I've gotten a ticket for 107 in a 65. Just a giant fine. No suspension. Mandatory court date though.

My friend (the same one in my story) got a ticket for drag racing (even though he wasnt. he just happened to be going really fast right next to someone else who was going really fast). He was going well over 100 in a 65 zone. Huge fine. No suspension. Mandatory court date. Perhaps being in a 65 zone makes a difference...?

And for the record. That was some time ago. I've matured greatly since then (hard to believe, I know) and now It angers me to see people drive quite so recklessly. I would certainly not condone that type of activity.

Those signs/radar thingees are posted in lots of different speed zones. I think the only place I've never seen them are in 65 and 75 zones.
 
There is an article by Patrick Bedard of Car and Driver explaining how these things do NOT improve safety. In fact, they often worsen it.

A nearby city (El Monte, IIRC), found that not only weren't they improving safety, the only ones making any money were the camera-operators. So they shelled out a bunch of money to have the cameras removed.

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Found the article:

http://www.caranddriver.com/feature...from_the_operators_of_traffic_scameras_column
 
madoka said:
There is an article by Patrick Bernard of Car and Driver explaining how these things do NOT improve safety.

A nearby city (El Monte, IIRC), found that not only weren't they improving safety, the only ones making any money were the camera-operators. So they shelled out a bunch of money to have the cameras removed.
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So provide a link.
 
I remember when stop-light cameras were put into Boston, and all the commotion it caused. I have not noticed much of a change - at all, in the years since.

I'm all for safe driving, and enforcement of the law - but I feel this is NOT the way to be going.

Hope these kids get their monies worth of fun, and force people to re-think this big brother system.
 
Redlight cams are nothing but a money grab

Many years ago when I got my license, the rule for yellow light timing was one second of yellow light for each 10 mph of speed limit, rounded up. That meant that a 45 mph road had a five second yellow. In the years since, as red light cams have increased in popularity, the municipalities have shortened the yellow light duration to as little as half of what they were in some cases. In an attempt to make more money for their coffers, they endanger everyone's lives by making intersections more dangerous. Yes people run red lights. But studies have shown that returning the yellow light durations to what they used to be before the money grabbing reduced red light violations by as much or more than the cameras do.

Don't believe the lie that it's about safety. As with many speed limits, it's more about revenue than safety.

I think the only thing these kids are doing wrong is not punking some local judges and legislators with this prank.
 
The stop light cameras in Minneapolis were decommissioned because they were ruled "unconstitutional". Complete BS if you ask me. I was ok with those cameras. After all if people knew how to drive they would not have been put up in the first place. Of course the cameras are put in place to make money, along with helping in public safety. What city or state does not need money?

Quite frankly, since the stop light cameras were shut off I have been crossing one particular intersection 5-6 times when a car runs the red.

People hate stop light cameras because they invade their privacy.
People like traffic cameras because they can see traffic conditions. :rolleyes:

Silly peoples..
 
Speeding is another of those areas where a lot of people have a lot of strong opinions backed by little fact and strong resolve.

It is actually the cause of very, very few accidents. However, the state needs a way of keeping people slow because most of them cannot read the road, don't understand physics and have no training in what to do when it goes wrong (a big failing in my opinion). Therefore, it's better people make the mistakes whilst going slower so the mess is smaller. It's the mistakes, not the speed.

I'm not posting number or links, look up crash figures and then look up meta analysis of camera data. You'll be very surprised. There are a few districts in the UK that don't fine for careless driving after a crash (in the UK, a crash is careless) but offer extra diver training. They ha an excellent success rate - unlike punishment.

AppleMatt
 
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