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That said, all things being equal (reception, mostly) I would say that the voice quality on Verizon is better, actually. This is my opinion. Nothing more.

Maybe you need to re-read what I said above. I never said ONE WAS BETTER THAN THE OTHER. I said the people who said Verizon was worse need to be quiet. That was all. I was middle ground on my post and I just said it was excellent in all areas.
 
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Maybe you need to re-read what I said above. I never said ONE WAS BETTER THAN THE OTHER. I said the people who said Verizon was worse need to be quiet. That was all. I was middle ground on my post and I just said it was excellent in all areas.

I guess I didn't see a point of saying anything at all. In other words, it is largely irrelevant for this conversation IMO. Hence the reason I called you on it. Saying "Anyone who says Verizon has poor voice quality needs to be quiet. Because they don't have a clue what they are talking about." doesn't leave me feeling like it was a middle ground statement, but if you say so, I will believe you. Sometimes things don't come across very well online.
 
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Here is the best one.

"Please show me the contract signed by myself and an ATT rep in which I agreed to have my service materially degraded by your bandwidth management system."

Answer= Just read your terms of service

Your answer= Im sorry, but in order for a contract to be legaly binding it must be signed by both parties, please supply me with the contract signed by myself and an ATT rep that states that I have consented to such a policy.

They can not, they did not.


Its just like the robo signers at BofA, They dont legally have title to your house unless they actually have the physical deed signed by you and a second party, a copy will not suffice. However if you did not know that and just let them foreclose on you, they will not tell you the law.


Que all of the softbrains out their to say, its in your TOS. So what, I didnt sign that TOS and surly ATT didnt sign it, its not a binding contract.

Exactly! I actually asked them (in a very polite way) how can I obtain the contract, they have on file. "contact Att store, where you've purchased the original phone" (!$&!@?) :)

I also asked for a proof, I am in the 5%, how is it mesured and what is the average for all smartphone users on our network monthly, for the past year
- "you can write a letter to the address on the bottom of your bill and you'll receive that information"

I know ... but I am looking for a copy of my contract today and will write that letter later

Btw, according to yahoo article, there's 17million of us, unlimited data on attFail ... WE HAVE THE POWER to make a change
 
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dude keep the unlimited plan and just stream videos and music all day

im unemployed and have nothin better to do anyways
 
My point, which you have failed to grasp, is that they can't explain their policy, because their policy, by its very design, is to force users to a tiered plan. It's not "throttling heavy users." ...

Well, their call volume goes up whenever I call, which makes their employees work harder, which either a) prompts them to bring on more call center reps, costing them more money or b) prompts employees to quit, degrading the level of person willing to work for them. I also mentioned that I'll be leaving them as soon as I can not be paying them for an early termination fee, and canceling other services with them as well. I'll also be telling friends and family of my experience, and advising them of how AT&T does business, hopefully costing them future customers. I guess it's funny that they get a couple hundred dollars from me for 6 months, and then lose far, far more down the road. Yep, a laugh riot.

I hope you work for AT&T. If not, you're simply a corporate apologist or "fan" of a company that has no such allegiance to you. Anyway, feel free to ignore any of my future "complaints," as I will be doing the same to any of your responses.

Bravo sir. Exactly: at some point of time attFail will have to admit that the cost of implementing and enforcing this ridiculous policy (trolls, extra calls, press, etc) ... is higher then letting us use 3, 4 or what I've suggested as a fair amount of data - 5gb before we get throttled.
In my argument: 90% of us, "unlimited" customers, who are throttled at 2gb now, would stop complaining (not trolls. Real customers, who have balls to stand up to a big bully).
2gb is unreasonable. and since AT&T's Data Pro 5GB is what they offer as a high end tiered plan. We should be entitled to at least that amount of data as _unlimited_ customers, before we get throttled!
 
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