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LED Displays for Upcoming Apple Laptops?
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Looking at that screen, I'm becoming more convinced that this will be a 12 - 13" Superslim MBP, and not a revised 15". Seems like the whole 262,000 colour thing won't work with pro's.
that is a 15.4" screen with only 1280 x 800 resolution.... same res as the macbook, but too big. I can definitely see this kind of tech going in the macbook first. It'll make it into the macbook pro once they get the higher res with the large color gammut.
Although this one looks promising...
That's a great looking 30". The brightness and color when viewed off angle is astounding.
Make it an option on the 15" as well, why not? Not everyone needs perfect color reproduction. If I could choose a display that would improve battery life 10-20%, I would consider it, unless it looked like total carp. Not everyone who buys laptops does photo work.
Wonder why this link shows they could get 106% of NTSC while the link in the article showed they could only squeeze out 45%?
Seems odd.
For the reason I posted earlier about white LED vs. RGB LEDs to produce backlight. Unfortunately, an RGB backlight is going to be as energy hungry as CCFL, and probably thicker (for the optics to combine the clusters to make white light)
Article doesnt have its facts straight.
I agree this could be in some mac subnotebook or tablet, not in the pro machine until the tech becomes "pro" quality.
I had a VAIO SZ from Sony with the 13.3" LED backlit LCD and it looked great - my point is that some people are acting like these things don't exist yet, when they certainly do.
Color reproduction seemed great, and the contrast was probably a little better than my MBP.
Power saving benefits are obvious, I could get 4 hours on that laptop without breaking a sweat, and it's rated at significantly longer than that. This is a technology I could see Apple implementing into a NEW series of laptops, say this super thin thing we all keep hearing about.
Color reproduction seemed great, and the contrast was probably a little better than my MBP.
Power saving benefits are obvious, I could get 4 hours on that laptop without breaking a sweat, and it's rated at significantly longer than that. This is a technology I could see Apple implementing into a NEW series of laptops, say this super thin thing we all keep hearing about.
Ah I see - I missed your previous post, sorry. You do seem to be right about this tech - the more I read about it, the less it seems fully baked. We'll see. The one thing I know is that Apple won't do anything stupid when it comes to display technologies. If there's a terrific use for this, Apple will find it.
If the claims about the LED displays being brighter are true, then I can just see the complaints rolling-in now.
"My eyes, my eyes. I'm blind. The screen is brighter than the sun, and I can't see anything. Anyone know how to dim the screen any further?"
That's essentially what is repeated over and over again on Apple's discussion board in relation to the newer iMac 24-inch systems.
So, if they make it even brighter with LED lighting, then surely there's going to be tons of complaints about the screen being too bright (even when fully dimmed). I've read a lot of complaints from iMac users with the newer brighter screens that claim that it cannot be dimmed enough and are resulting to 3rd-party programs to dim the screen beyond the normal limits.
"My eyes, my eyes. I'm blind. The screen is brighter than the sun, and I can't see anything. Anyone know how to dim the screen any further?"
That's essentially what is repeated over and over again on Apple's discussion board in relation to the newer iMac 24-inch systems.
So, if they make it even brighter with LED lighting, then surely there's going to be tons of complaints about the screen being too bright (even when fully dimmed). I've read a lot of complaints from iMac users with the newer brighter screens that claim that it cannot be dimmed enough and are resulting to 3rd-party programs to dim the screen beyond the normal limits.
Pro
These are MacBook PROs. Color accuracy is very important to professionals. Apple knows this and wouldn't release a laptop with poor color accuracy for the pro market. Next rev may or may not have LED screen, probably not if color accuracy decreases. You can probably count on the new Santa Rosa motherboard, though, and the processor speed bump. It just makes sense.
But when? That's always the question. I want a new computer. Lucky me the laptops are mid product cycle, which means it makes just as much sense to buy one as it does to wait!
These are MacBook PROs. Color accuracy is very important to professionals. Apple knows this and wouldn't release a laptop with poor color accuracy for the pro market. Next rev may or may not have LED screen, probably not if color accuracy decreases. You can probably count on the new Santa Rosa motherboard, though, and the processor speed bump. It just makes sense.
But when? That's always the question. I want a new computer. Lucky me the laptops are mid product cycle, which means it makes just as much sense to buy one as it does to wait!
Actually the current reproduction on the current MBPs are about as sucky as that new Samsung too.
What I hope to see on that are at least:
1) even backlighting
2) wider viewing angles
3) NO GRAININESS!
I don't care for LED's right now because for photography work, color accuracy is more important than battery life
Unfortunately that would mean you'd have to switch to a PeeCee. All Apple's laptops have TN displays (read: the cheapest of the cheap, absolute bottom of the barrel).
Isn't Santa Rosa rumoured to be postponed until September?
re: scrambledwonder's "Pro"
Anybody who gets paid for their work and whose work is worth paying for would have the budget for a real reference monitor. They wouldn't rely on a portable's LCD for print or video work. There's plenty one could do in the field with a portable computer. However, color critical work must be done in a controlled environment on a calibrated monitor.
Anybody who gets paid for their work and whose work is worth paying for would have the budget for a real reference monitor. They wouldn't rely on a portable's LCD for print or video work. There's plenty one could do in the field with a portable computer. However, color critical work must be done in a controlled environment on a calibrated monitor.
Like someone else has said, colour gamut on existing Apple laptops is much smaller than that of quality desktop LCDs with 8-bit panels, so there is huge room for improvement. I know this because I measured it with my ColorVision Spyder2 colorimeter.
In fact, going from my G3 iBook 800Mhz to my MacBook Pro 2.33GHz, there is virtually zero improvement in colour gamut, which is extremely disappointing. I'm not sure what the situation is with other laptops, but I'd wager that most laptops on the market have lousy color gamut.
I hope these new LCDs kick some serious arse.
Wow, that's crazy. Seems you can't please some people either way.
I can't imagine that a screen turned down all the way is still too bright for someone.
Yes, I don't know what it is that they're complaining about there. I do agree that the iMac screens are extremely bright (just about burn your eyes out after looking at a different screen).
What's even worse, is when I've turned one on first thing in the morning. If you've ever been in a pitch-black room, and then had someone turn the lights on right after you wake-up, you know what I mean. Except, amplify that times 100.
But, still, I would think that on minimum, that people would not find it too bright. But, perhaps they work in the dark. Who knows.
But, if the new screens are brighter, I guarantee you that there will be complaints.
Of course, I found the iBook G4 screens to be ridiculously dim. And, the new MacBook screens to be bright enough. Now, who knows how bright the new models with LED will be.
Let the complaints roll in.
Whats the spec (LCD, such as gamut, power consumption, brightness, samsung LCD? etc) of your Vaio SZ???? I m very curious of this current top of the notch laptop......
Ha! You certainly seem to know the readership around here...
Spent enough time in various forums to know that improvements that Apple makes will likely result in negative complaints by the users.
Apparently, Apple is asking the wrong people what they want. Either that, or they're only asking Steve Jobs, and he's just not in-touch with what we really want.
I want: Faster processors, More processors, more durable products that can take a bit of rough handling, something that will last for 5 years or more, something that is attractive to me but puts function before beauty, and I want it all for $1.
I don't want: The slowest processor you think I will tolerate in this machine, the shiny plastic that looks like trash the first time I touch it, something that will only last for 6 months or 1 year (1 year if I don't turn it on), and costs 10 times more than it would if someone else made a better one.
I think that sums it up. Steve Jobs is just listening to the wrong people. He should be listening to those of us who like to use it more than fantasize about touching it. Eww. That just sounds dirty
Did I get that right???