LED MacBooks worth waiting for?

Discussion in 'MacBook' started by caktusaurus, Mar 4, 2008.

  1. caktusaurus macrumors member

    Sep 24, 2007

    I must have gotten two "lemons" in a row, since I've now had two MacBooks with horrible backlight bleed at the bottom. The viewing angle is not great either, but at least (somewhat) adjustable - although the tilting angle on Apple laptop screens are quite limited.

    I really want a MacBook though (since it's perfect in every other way), so my question is: do you think an LED upgrade for the MacBook (if there is one in June) is worth waiting for? Will the probability/severeness of backlight bleeding be less?
  2. heatmiser macrumors 68020

    Dec 6, 2007
    Nah. If you need it, buy it. If you don't, don't.
  3. siurpeeman macrumors 603


    Dec 2, 2006
    the OC
    a revision in june is highly speculative, and you could be waiting a very long time. but if you can afford the wait, why not?
  4. DannySmurf macrumors 6502a

    Jul 7, 2005
    More to the point, since there is no guarantee that the Macbooks will EVER get LED-backlit screens, you might as well buy one now if you want one, since you could conceivably be waiting forever for that update.
  5. Halsey12 macrumors regular

    Jan 1, 2006
    I run my LED MacBook Pro with the lid closed. It looks awful next to the 23" Apple Cinema Display. Both have been calibrated with hardware, and that helped a bit on the LED, but it still lacks contrast and saturation severely.
  6. siurpeeman macrumors 603


    Dec 2, 2006
    the OC
    apple did announce intentions to move their entire product lineup to led backlit screens at some point, so it will happen. it's just a question of when.
  7. DannySmurf macrumors 6502a

    Jul 7, 2005
    Okay, I didn't realize that. But still, for all we know "at some point" is two years in the future for the consumer line. And since the entire portable line was just updated (and the MBA is less than two months old), I think it's probably a safe assumption that a major update like that is at least six months away. I'd call it silly to wait based just on this.
  8. VideoShooter macrumors regular

    Dec 11, 2004
    One of the best parts of Apple computers is that they hold their resale value.

    So - buy a Macbook.

    When they release a LED backlit version... sell your old one.

    Then buy a new one with LED backlighting!

    You're dollars will go even further if you buy a refurb.

    I bought a black macbook recently myself - refurb.

    When the NEW Macbook Pro's are released - with Montevino processors and a whole new redesign in July or August - I'm burning $3K on a 17 inch badass.

    Till then - I'm happy with my pimp little blackbook that cost me $1050.

  9. Koreos macrumors member

    Mar 4, 2008
    Interesting topic, I will be purchasing a Macbook in august, just before school starts.
    Is it possible that Apple gives another revision to the MB before that? How often have they been upgrading their products?
  10. Fezzasus macrumors regular

    Jan 24, 2008
    I think you need to fully understand the pros and cons of a LED backlit screen before assuming that they will be better.


    They have a similar lifespan to current CCFL backlights

    They are currently less energetically efficient than CCFL (they have the potential to be better though)

    They cost more than CCFL (currently)


    They are less toxic to the environment.

    I can't see much reason to want an LED backlit LCD at the moment, It's good to see apple and other companies move towards them, but there's little to no benefit to the consumer.
  11. caktusaurus thread starter macrumors member

    Sep 24, 2007
    This was my intention with this thread. I'm a bit worried I'm waiting for something that won't make a big difference. However, I've had two MacBooks at home (and sent back) because of backlight bleeding issues. My question was if LED backlighting lessens this problem, or if it doesn't matter since it all boils down to the TN panel technology used and how well the LCD will be able to block out the backlight when showing black colors? I've actually seen good CCFL-backlit displays.

    Yes, that is supposed to be true. But I've read somewhere that CCFL backlights fade while LED ones don't. Is that correct?

    This is quite the opposite of what I've heard. Aren't one of the main pros of LED's that they consume less power?

    Can't argue with that! :)

    This is nice, but hardly worth waiting for as I see it.

    This is where I'm trying to make up my mind.
  12. benjaminbr macrumors member

    Feb 10, 2008
    I'm sorry you don't think helping the environment is worth waiting for.
  13. tremendous macrumors 6502


    Jan 16, 2008
    UK? Yeah I'm OK. Stop asking.
    I love how June has been plucked out the air as a macbook update month.
  14. caktusaurus thread starter macrumors member

    Sep 24, 2007
    I hope you know what I meant. This pro is overshadowed by the others from a consumer point of view. Do you own any electrical appliances that contain hazardous substances? I'm sure you do. We all do. How many in here do you think would wait another 6 months before buying if mercury-free backlights were the only benefit? Not many, I think. And it's not always a matter of choice. Instead you should be sorry for Apple not having transitioned to LED in their consumer line notebook yet, when companies like Dell have.

    Could this be accurate?

    I prefer helping the environment in other ways: I don't drive, instead I ride my bicycle to wherever I'm going. Whenever I'm going far away, I try to use avoid using fossil-fueled public transportations (like buses) in favor of trams and trains. At home, I recycle and tend a compost pile. All in all, I'm keeping my CO2 footprint small.
  15. krye macrumors 68000


    Aug 21, 2007
    No, if the MBA tests are any indication, then the boost in battey life will be insignificant.
  16. Macintosh Sauce macrumors 6502

    Macintosh Sauce

    Nov 25, 2006
    I was pondering the same thing, but at 5:30 a.m. this morning I decided I am not going to wait any longer. Especially, after reading the black plastic on the new black MacBook is actually black plastic and not painted over like previous models.

    Getting it tomorrow - woohoo! :)
  17. Hankster macrumors 68020


    Jan 30, 2008
    Washington DC
    There is ZERO evidence MB will get LED screens. I don't know why people get all hyped up on lies and hopes and when the REAL upgraded MB come they get all prissy and cry.

    Don't say something is coming simply because you want it. MB will probably NOT get LED screens because it would make them too close to the MBP.
  18. azentropy macrumors 68020


    Jul 19, 2002
    Other than Apple's public commitment to going Green and providing mercury free LCD's, which the LED LCDs in the MBA and MBP are and the current MacBooks are not - right?

  19. benjaminbr macrumors member

    Feb 10, 2008
    I applaud you environmental ethic, especially the composting; and I'm aware about the mountain of chemicals sitting on my desk, which has prompted me to buy most stuff second hand. (craigslist is awsome!) I guess my issue was the separation of the consumer and the environmentalist within.

    I just think the environmental aspect of a consumer's purchase (and any other decision) should come before other aspects. As you can see on your link, LED's seem to be well worth the wait, if you can. Personally, i'm waiting too. I want my next laptop to last as long as my first, the ol' 12" 867, which is still chugging along. (the irony is that the only malfunction with the 12" is the backlight, which is fading in the middle of the screen.)
  20. MacBooksRock macrumors regular

    Nov 27, 2007
    LED is worth waiting for, it saves battery power, and protects the environment.. ;)
  21. caktusaurus thread starter macrumors member

    Sep 24, 2007
    Does anyone think that a new update in June is probable? Or even possible?
  22. sculptor macrumors newbie

    Feb 23, 2008
    To the OP, if you need a Macbook, get one now. I'd suggest the 2.4 white one. You can upgrade the Memory, and if your adventurous and need it the Hard Drive.

    Because of the new Intel platform the Macbook will get updated with it eventually. The last several updates before this one were 6 months apart. So Apple knows we do not expect an update before that, unless there's other pressure for them to do an update earlier I doubt they will.

  23. scotty56 macrumors regular

    Feb 12, 2008
    Everyone seems to get pretty excited when a screen goes LED, but aside from the environmental pros and a brighter picture, what else makes LEDs that much better?
  24. azentropy macrumors 68020


    Jul 19, 2002
    LEDs have many advantages over CCFLs..

    - uses less power
    - Higher color gamut
    - thinner
    - faster response times
    - brightness does not degrade over time
    - more rugged/higher reliability
  25. DaBrain macrumors 65816


    Feb 28, 2007
    ERIE, PA
    Doesn't matter to me! I bought a blk refurb last week and IM glad I did. The way I see it if ya keep waiting and waiting for the next gen you will always be waiting. Cause there will always be new technology which will be more environmentally friendly coming down the pipe!

    Buy now and enjoy it! I sure wouldn't be on a guilt trip because it's not the latest GREEN technology. It will all come in time, but for now it is what it is! ;)

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