Legitimate Unlocking from O2

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by SpookTheHamster, Oct 4, 2009.

  1. SpookTheHamster macrumors 65816

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    Are O2 PAYG iPhones locked to the network?

    If they are, has anybody ever asked O2 to unlock the phone, seeing as it has been entirely paid for (unlike a contract phone)?
     
  2. Pennine macrumors 6502

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    I too was wondering this, cos i would like to move to Orange
     
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  4. OllyW Moderator

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    O2 won't even unlock 2G iPhones when their 18 month contract has finished.

    The European table on the Apple site doesn't offer any hope either.
     
  5. mrochester macrumors 65816

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    They are locked, and they won't unlock them either.
     
  6. bertpalmer macrumors 6502

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    I'd be interested to know this.

    It CAN be done.

    According to my friend they DO have a code which you can ask for. You then pass this code on to your new provider which they use to lock it on to a specific network.
     
  7. Interpolation macrumors regular

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    Your friend is talking rubbish. That is only for normal phones, not the iphone. You cannot move your iphone to another provider, as O2 need to unlock it. They need to tell apple that the phone is unlocked and then you can use any sim in the phone. Effectively apple then add you phone to their database so that everytime you activate it it knows it is unlocked.

    God I hate these a friend of a friends grandmothers nephews dog knows something or other.

    Currently O2 is pondering on what they are going to do. They could quite easily say no. It depends if you will be able to buy an unlocked phone from apple to use on any of the providers, whether it is O2, Vodaphone, or Orange.
     
  8. Badfoot macrumors 6502

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    Why can't we (UK) just fall in line and adopt one of the 'better' regulations of another member country and unlock the phones. We adopt all the rubbish regulations so lets add some balance adopt a good regulation for a change.
     
  9. samab macrumors 6502a

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    The "better" regulation is promoting competition --- which the UK has. No other country in the G7 has 5 national carriers.

    Go to France, and you have 3 national carriers, all French owned, zero foreign competition, the largest French carrier owning about 45% of the French mobile market. Sure, all three carriers sell the iphone, and you can get them unlock --- but all three carriers were fined by the French government for price collusion a few years ago as well.
     
  10. cal6n macrumors 68000

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    Now that O2's period of exclusivity has lapsed, there is no longer any viable reason for them to continue refusing to unlock out-of-contract iPhones. To persist with their current stance would be a PR disaster and I expect them to officially change their position in the near future.
     
  11. Badfoot macrumors 6502

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    Well that's France for you !

    What about the other gzillion countries that make up the EU

    Wouldn't you like to see unlocked phones in the uk ? What's wrong with that ?

    Let US decide who we give our custom to based on their quality of service
     
  12. synagence macrumors 6502a

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    There is absolutely nothing stopping O2 giving you an unlock code except for the 2 reasons i'll state below:
    1. they don't want to despite now not being able to hide behind exclusivity
    2. they don't have to because there is nothing in UK law to compel them to
     
  13. sorchard macrumors regular

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    Are you sure he wasn't explaining / getting confused about porting your number in/out?

    We already have unlocked phones. I bought my N95 8GB SIM-free from Expansys, and I paid Orange a reasonable fee to provide the unlock code for my old N95. O2/Vodafone don't lock their contract handsets and internet dongles (apart from the iPhone), and Orange/T-Mobile/3 lock everything. All of the networks will hand out unlock codes (except for the iPhone).


    I've been enjoying the ability to use any SIM I want to get the best deal, for years. But I don't have an iPhone.
     
  14. yetanotherdave macrumors 68000

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    I spoke to them just after the vodafone announcement, and their CS rep said they would be unlocking phones soon, now that exclusivity is over.
     
  15. RandomKamikaze macrumors 6502a

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    Just read this which backs that up:

    http://www.itpro.co.uk/615877/o2-to-unlock-the-iphone

    Also, for the benefit of the above posters NUC's (Network Unlocking Codes) don't work for the iPhone as Apple unlock it via a updated carrier file.

    And for reference the other code is a PAC or Porting Authority Code which allows you to move your number from one carrier to another
     
  16. Bye Bye Baby macrumors 65816

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    Not true Italy has more than five active carriers. TIM Vodafone Wind 3 Orange and one other I can't remember. Some are local others are clearly foreign. The phones are all unlocked.

    The iPhone deals up until now have absolutely sucked, but the 3 offer is getting better.
     
  17. cal6n macrumors 68000

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    In all probability, I'll be staying with O2 at the end of my contract anyway, especially with the discounted broadband they provide. Once my contract is up, a monthly simplicity deal from them will suit me fine until the iPhone v.4 turns up.

    When that happens it'll be time to look at the alternatives, but a reasonably-priced femtocell would probably tip the balance for me.
     
  18. C is for COOKIE macrumors newbie

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    I don't see how O2 are allowed to do this...it's against EU Law, specifically the directive on Unfair Contract Terms.
     
  19. brisweeney macrumors regular

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    im currently in the process of drafting a legal letter to O2 Ireland about this issue.

    the iPhone contract is, in parts illegal and will not hold up in court. i cant go into too much detail now, but if the letter is ignored my legal representitive is ready to go on them!

    i will be posting the result here and in other blogs
     
  20. Badfoot macrumors 6502

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    More power to your elbow, when (not if) you win do you envisage it will apply to all of uk ?
     
  21. brisweeney macrumors regular

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    contract law in the UK is quite similar to Ireland, i can see that even if it doesnt, it will put O2 in a terrible position with its customers, thus forcing them to unlock all iPhones, once the contract is realised in full by the customer.

    lucky i have access to cheap, and free legal advice and have a background in pr myself :)
     
  22. hsotnicam8002 macrumors 6502

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    Just to correct your geography, but Dublin Ireland is not part of the UK. A great many people lost their lives to make it that way!
     
  23. Badfoot macrumors 6502

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    Go Go Go,

    (Don't forget us pay-and -go OWNERS of a phone we paid ££££'s for & can only use on one particular network)
     
  24. Badfoot macrumors 6502

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    Yes sorry, you are quite right.
    I didn't notice where the poster was from, was too interested in his comment.
     

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