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Leopard At Macworld San Francisco? Intel and iTV (Viiv)?

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According to MacNewsWorld columnist Rob Enderle, Apple may be preparing to launch Leopard at MacWorld San Francisco. Steve Jobs had previously announced at this year's WWDC that Leopard would ship in Spring 2007, however Enderle believes the release will be pushed up to take as much spark away from Microsoft's release of Vista as possible.

It looks like this puppy is nearly ready if I'm reading the signs right -- and Apple is clearly setting up for something big.
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Also mentioned is Intel's involvement with the iTV.

(Ed. Note: Presumably regarding the iTV) Now Intel's part goes beyond the chip and appears to contain elements of Viiv, if not all of that platform. Viiv is actually kind of cool, it's just that Intel has not been able to explain effectively what it is and, as a result, the market hasn't been particularly excited about it on Windows. However, Apple knows how to sell and with a problem where the technology is good but the marketing's not, Apple has the skills to make a huge contribution.
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Rumors of Apple using Intel's Viiv media platform have been circulating since late last year, culminating with rumors regarding supposed Apple Viiv 40 and 50" displays. Apple has yet to release any Viiv-branded product, although a $1 million contest announced at Intel's recent developer forum for the best Viiv design has regained some interest in the rumor.
 
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This guy is an unknown, hence page2. Also, to me it seems as though there is still a bit of work to go on Leopard (despite it coming along nicely), so I'm not putting a ton of faith in this one.
 
I'm starting to wonder if Jobs was full of bleep when he said other top secret things we can't show you. I wonder if this is the same as those "hidden features" on the iPod that were talked up a few years ago and then immediately nothing came of it. We'll see. :(
 
I expect a demo of Leopard at Macworld, but not a launch. iLife and iWork '07, iTV (or whatever it's eventually called) and possibly the Apple phone ('one more thing') will be enough to launch in January!
 
Is Leopard in the Release Candidate stage or still in beta? If it's still in beta, there is no way it could be ready in time for January.
 
Leopard still has a ways to go... I doubt it will show up in January. Apple has little real reason to rush it out the door.

They will show it off in January but they wont ship it that early.
 
SiliconAddict said:
I'm starting to wonder if Jobs was full of bleep when he said other top secret things we can't show you.
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If Viiv will be integrated in Leopard, I guess it count as one of those secret things. As far as I know, it's not integrated in Windows Media Center, it's on top of the OS, just another layer of GUI. But on Apple, it can be build within Leopard AND with full hardware support. Can be major.....
 
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BRLawyer said:
Enderle used to be a Windows fanboy...what has changed? :rolleyes:
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There's only so much bull ***** you can spout before some sense seeps through. However it has to be said with him it is likely to be but a fleeting moment of sanity before normal service (service being the operative word) is resumed.
 
I'm gunna keep the faith on this one. I'm not sure that Leopard will be released in January, but theres nothing to stop Apple from announcing a release date. They may just say it will be shipping in Feb/March. :D

Have Microsoft set a specific release date for Vista yet?? Or is the release date still "Early 2007" Apple still may be able to beat them to market.:cool:

I still think there's gunna be some exciting stuff released.:)

Can anyone explain to me what Viiv actually is or does?:confused:
 
MacSA said:
How do you know? We've heard very little about Leopard since it was previewed.
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I know :)

(was at WWDC 06, I know what is expected and what is left unfinished... now Apple could deliver things that are missing in a point release but I doubt they would find the need to do that)
 
I was hoping and thinking the exact samething.... Thats why they pretended that leopard was so incomplete at wwdc come on leopard in january
 
BRLawyer said:
Enderle used to be a Windows fanboy...what has changed? :rolleyes:
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I think most Windows fanboys like Enderle, Thurrott et. al actually are Apple admirers. However, they show it public to different degrees.
 
welshandrew said:
I expect a demo of Leopard at Macworld, but not a launch. iLife and iWork '07, iTV (or whatever it's eventually called) and possibly the Apple phone ('one more thing') will be enough to launch in January!
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I think the 'one more thing' will be the next gen iPod since I can't see it coming out before Christmas now.

Also about Leopard, I am pretty sure I read somewhere that Apple said it will not be launching it at MWSF.
 
Let's not count anything out...

If there's one thing we know about Steve is that he will do whatever he wants whenever he wants. If Leopard is ready in January he'll release it; if not he won't. Having said that I don't think Leopard will be ready in January (although I'm not a developer). The good thing about Apple is that they are very quick to fix bugs in the OS. I think the frequent "." updates for OSX could allow Apple to release Leopard earlier than planned. As for Viiv I think the biggest thing is going to be the integration of FrontRow and the iTunes Store and PVR capability. The thing Apple is going to school Microsoft on is how to make everything seamlessly integrated.

I can't believe the press hasn't made more of a to-do about the price on Vista. Holy crap. They neuter the cheaper versions so that they'll sell more of the expensive software.

Even if Apple were to increase the price (and there would be tons of pissed off loyals) it would still be about half of Vista.

Things I'm looking forward to:
A (Red)Macbook
Leopard by March
iPhone
 
Leopard In January

I don’t see Leopard ready in January. Possibly in March for the French show but more likely for WWDC if it is heal at it’s usual time. They want to make sure that it hits the floor running and with the leat amount of problems.

Also I think that this is the time table for hardware reasons. I will explain.

At this time both the Mac Mini and the MacBook will run Leopard in 32 bit mode not 64. This will limit what can be done on those platforms with Leopard.

I think that Apple will want all of it’s hardware to work with Leopard in 64 bit mode so they can show off what loepard can do.

In order to do this Apple will have to wait for the next version of Core 2 Duo. According to Intel that is due about April 2007 along with the corresponding chip sets. This will allow the iMac and the MacBook Pro to be shipped with the new chip sets and the Mac Mini and MacBook to get the current chip set.
Also the next version of the woodcrest chip set will be out.

All of the new chips will probably have SSE 4. This will be a close equialent to the velocity engine from the G4, better than the one on the G5, and I doubt the MS has developed Vista with that in mind. They will probably wait for their first service pack.
 
twoodcc said:
i would love to see Leopard at Macworld.
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I'd love to see it, but I have my doubts. I have great hopes that Apple has done some great things with the finder and with the iHome concept (combined with Time Machine)... the lack of change in these in the previews is surprising, so I think it's the "top secret stuff".

So could Apple release a different finder without going through previews? I would think this would be difficult, though they may have a select few thousand developers using whatever they're developing.

The best chance, I think, is that Apple will preview their new OSX with all secrets revealed, with a release candidate ready to go and if all goes well a final product shortly after. Who knows, they may even build in their bittorrent-like file sharing for downloads and sell the whole thing online.
 
longofest said:
This guy is an unknown, hence page2. Also, to me it seems as though there is still a bit of work to go on Leopard (despite it coming along nicely), so I'm not putting a ton of faith in this one.
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He's not unknown at all, in fact he's quite well known. Unfortunately he's well known for spouting utter crap, so this should be taken with a pinch of salt. I.e. definitely Page 2 material!

Just to illustrate my point:

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/search/results/27a9d6527cedf017d44c0203059919da/
 
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