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Well since you're talking about Tiger how 'bout you spill the beans since we all already have our hands on a legit copy
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I'm posting this here because it seems like there's already a good discussion going on Leopard and what it brings to the party. I'm planning on making the switch to an iMac but I'm not sure if I should wait or not. I saw some talk about the next generation core 2 duo's and such. Basically I'm going to use it for school, e-mail, word processing etc... I'll probably also use it for making hime movie dvd's for my parents, they have one of those video recorders that records straight to dvd but it makes horribly ugly menus. I don't have a problem paying for an upgrade to leopard and from what I see the consensus is that it's not coming until the spring and not in January, but is there going to be a hardware update to the iMacs in conjunction with Leopards release and should I wait for that or will that likely not be a huge jump over the current line of iMacs? For what it's worth I'm planning on going with a 20".
Also, does Apple offer any kind of upgrade voucher for new versions of Mac OS similar to what Microsoft is offering for Vista? I'm guessing they don't since the upgrade is already reasonably priced.
I'm posting this here because it seems like there's already a good discussion going on Leopard and what it brings to the party. I'm planning on making the switch to an iMac but I'm not sure if I should wait or not. I saw some talk about the next generation core 2 duo's and such. Basically I'm going to use it for school, e-mail, word processing etc... I'll probably also use it for making hime movie dvd's for my parents, they have one of those video recorders that records straight to dvd but it makes horribly ugly menus. I don't have a problem paying for an upgrade to leopard and from what I see the consensus is that it's not coming until the spring and not in January, but is there going to be a hardware update to the iMacs in conjunction with Leopards release and should I wait for that or will that likely not be a huge jump over the current line of iMacs? For what it's worth I'm planning on going with a 20".
Also, does Apple offer any kind of upgrade voucher for new versions of Mac OS similar to what Microsoft is offering for Vista? I'm guessing they don't since the upgrade is already reasonably priced.
if u can wait a year, than do. leopard will be out, and hardware will obviously be improved....BUT if u need it now, just get it, and dont look back. ull make very good use of ur imac until leopard is released, and once it is, u can evaluate whether or not u need its features right away
They don't offer a cheaper "upgrade" version of Mac OS X I'm afraid, unless you bought your machine 1 month or less before Leopard was released.
In essense all boxed copies of Mac OS X are upgrade versions, after all its not possible to run Mac OS X on anything but a Mac (legitimately), in which case anyone buying a boxed copy of Leopard must already have a legal copy of a previous Mac OS X, and are "upgrading".
This opinion is sometimes the subject of flamage on this board, but only from people who are trying to justify themselves installing Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware.
I never understood the necessity people have in forcing OS X onto non-Apple machines? I guess if it's just your hobby, and it's a puzzle or something you do to pass the time, that's one thing. But there is absolutely no reason beyond that to do so. Apple makes great machines, and certainly doesn't skimp on quality hardware. Sure, if you search for deals and put it together yourself you might be able to save a few dollars, but it's not as if Apple marks up their machines insanely. If you price out all the parts individually, and take into account the fact that a professional installed and tested everything, and the aesthetic beauty of the cases, etc, you really can't find a much better deal - even a do-it-yourself one.
My two cents I guess, but I think it's tough to argue.
My two cents I guess, but I think it's tough to argue.
The iMac is probably at a nice sweet spot at the moment. Sure it'll be upgraded next year sometime, but I doubt it'll be January.
Apple will probably release iLife 07 in January so you'll save having to buy that if you wait till MWSF. If you wait till Leopard too, then you'll save on both ... but until the iMac got upgraded you'd have lost the sweet spot anyway on a slightly dated CPU.
Like always, if you wait 6 months you'll get a better machine. In this case you'll also save a couple of hundred dollars on iLife/OSX upgrades. But the machine is great now... As always - if you need the machine, buy what you need now. If you're going fine now, then wait.
I would say yes for Jan 07. The final release date for vista is Jan 30 and I could see apple holding back something really big for leopard and putting it out before Jan 30 and vista would be a great move for them to show that apple has the best Os.
Apple would not have to have the 64bit hardware out to release leopard if it can downgrade to 32bit. I'm shore they could reg up a test machine to show us what it could do at 64bit and give us a preview on new hardware coming soon for it.
I can see for shore having all the macs upgraded to at least core 2 duo by then and see ilife 07 and Iword 07.
I would like to see my self a video card option for the macmini and macbook and a price drop would be nice
Apple would not have to have the 64bit hardware out to release leopard if it can downgrade to 32bit. I'm shore they could reg up a test machine to show us what it could do at 64bit and give us a preview on new hardware coming soon for it.
I can see for shore having all the macs upgraded to at least core 2 duo by then and see ilife 07 and Iword 07.
I would like to see my self a video card option for the macmini and macbook and a price drop would be nice
MS can release office whenever the heck they want! Around MWSF would be good to try and stop the thunder of iWork '07, complete with a spreadsheets app and revamped word processing and page layout modes in pages. They don't need to tell Apple or anything. They're competing with Apple here!
Those who know cant say. Those who say dont know.
My 2c worth. When its released, Leopard will work on current systems. It has to otherwise existing users will be pi$$ed off.
iTV (or whatever its called) will be a standalone system, with software support within Leopard. Didnt Steve give a target price of $299 for the hardware???
There will be various updated to various software and hardware products, but nothing too exciting such as upgraded iWorks, .Mac, iLife perhaps with some "missing" applications included.
Perhaps an upgrade or two to some of the older Pro Apps.
A new Cinema range display with built in iSight, probably keeping the existing sizes.
I suspect a RED laptop, like the RED iPods assuming the RED campaign is still running, but this could be slipped in at anytime.
iPhone - I doubt this will come to market as the mobile market is full of phones. It is perhaps more likely that Apple will team up with Nokia, Sony Erricson or someone to integrate iTunes compatability.
iTunes - A change in the DRM system due to recent legal problems in France, Norway etc and anti competition problems.
Well thats a lot, but as I said above, those who say dont know!
but we can dream.
My 2c worth. When its released, Leopard will work on current systems. It has to otherwise existing users will be pi$$ed off.
iTV (or whatever its called) will be a standalone system, with software support within Leopard. Didnt Steve give a target price of $299 for the hardware???
There will be various updated to various software and hardware products, but nothing too exciting such as upgraded iWorks, .Mac, iLife perhaps with some "missing" applications included.
Perhaps an upgrade or two to some of the older Pro Apps.
A new Cinema range display with built in iSight, probably keeping the existing sizes.
I suspect a RED laptop, like the RED iPods assuming the RED campaign is still running, but this could be slipped in at anytime.
iPhone - I doubt this will come to market as the mobile market is full of phones. It is perhaps more likely that Apple will team up with Nokia, Sony Erricson or someone to integrate iTunes compatability.
iTunes - A change in the DRM system due to recent legal problems in France, Norway etc and anti competition problems.
Well thats a lot, but as I said above, those who say dont know!
but we can dream.
I disagree. I personally prefer Thinkpads to Powerbooks. I cannot stand the touchpad thing, it's a monstrocity and barely usable. IBM/Lenovo's version of the trackpoint is superb though.
But I like Mac OS X.
I'd buy it if they made it available in a form legally able to run on non-Macs, and I'd pay a premium too.
Thanks
Thanks for all the replies to my question. I think I may wait and see what hardware upgrades are coming down since my current windows laptop works and is plenty powerful. My motivations are simply to escape the abyss that is windows and it's various associated problems so I think I can hold out a bit longer. Thanks again for all the replies.
Thanks for all the replies to my question. I think I may wait and see what hardware upgrades are coming down since my current windows laptop works and is plenty powerful. My motivations are simply to escape the abyss that is windows and it's various associated problems so I think I can hold out a bit longer. Thanks again for all the replies.