Leopard font display

Discussion in 'macOS' started by AppleCandidate, Oct 11, 2007.

  1. AppleCandidate macrumors member

    Oct 11, 2007

    I'm a long time Windows user eager to switch to Mac (especially after trying Vista!) I'm waiting for Leopard to be released for my purchase, however, after testing different websites on Safari in Windows, I remain concerned about what seems to be a very fuzzy font display. Does anyone know if Leopard will improve its font technology Quartz and display crisper fonts with Leopard?

    I guess I expect to hear from beta testers to let me know if that has changed at all. Has Apple historically improve its font display from version to version?

  2. Not-a-cliche macrumors regular

    Sep 24, 2007
    Well, in Tiger Safari your post looks like this:

  3. AppleCandidate thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 11, 2007
    Funny..... is that at medium, light or strong.... and do you know anything about leopard's display?
  4. projectle macrumors 6502a

    Oct 11, 2005
    Wow... you guys crack me up.

    Yea, font smoothing has always been one of those customizable things.

    To change it, go to "System Preferences" -> "Appearance"

    If you want even more control, you will need to install Xcode, and it will give you quite a few tools to change all that stuff.

    I am sure that most people are perfectly fine with "Automatic" font smoothing.

    Personally, I have found the default ClearType settings in Windows to be very fuzzy for me and have needed to use their "ClearType Wizard" from the Microsoft Windows PowerToys site to get it set up so that it doesn't hurt my eyes.
  5. AppleCandidate thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 11, 2007
    What's Xcode exactly and what can it do for font display setting for website browsing?
  6. projectle macrumors 6502a

    Oct 11, 2005
    Xcode is the OS X development tools.

    It is a full IDE (Integrated Development Environment) equivalent to Microsoft's Visual Studio.

    On top of the IDE, it also has several tools for testing and configuring pretty much anything on your system.

    There is an application in it for adjusting the font smoothing options system-wide, not just for web browsing.
  7. AppleCandidate thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 11, 2007
    Wow, i didn't know this - any idea what kind of results you can achieve with this or do you have an example to show?
  8. psychofreak Retired


    May 16, 2006
    I've always found that font smoothing is a matter of getting used to. Every time I go onto an OS I haven't used for a while, it irritates my eyes, then after a few days, it seems good...
  9. Alloye macrumors 6502a

    Apr 11, 2007
    Rocklin, CA
    Apple and Microsoft took different approaches to on-screen font rendering in their operating systems. Apple's Quartz implementation more accurately preserves the design of a typeface at the expense of sharpness on low-DPI displays. Microsoft's ClearType, on the other hand, forces a typeface to render on pixel boundaries, which improves low-DPI sharpness at the expense of overall WYSIWYG accuracy.

    Which way is better on today's hardware is a matter of some debate. As we transition towards higher-DPI displays in the near future, Apple's approach should prove more scalable.

    As for changes to this technology in Leopard, Apple hasn't announced any.
  10. zign macrumors 6502


    Apr 9, 2006
    You will get used to the font smoothing quite quickly and then you will realize how ugly everything looks on Windows...
  11. jonny macrumors regular

    Jun 28, 2007
    I've actually noticed that the font smoothing in Leopard is very buggy compared to Tiger... anything between 8-10 looks like s**t. ie, unreadable unless selected. hopefully a bug which will be fixed soon.
  12. jeff_siler macrumors 6502

    May 4, 2005
    Hi can you tell me what tool you use in Xcode to adjust the font smoothing options system-wide? That would be really useful for me.


  13. jdavtz macrumors 6502a

    Aug 22, 2005
    Safari on OS X has much nicer font smoothing than Safari on Windows. See the screenshot above (and/or take a look at a real life Mac in a store).

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