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Leopard iChat Answering Machine

dejo said:
If that's a flaw, most IM clients suffer from it. Adium and others were designed for the sole issue of interoperability, but they still require you to have accounts on each system. True interoperability, like demonstrated with iChat and AIM or Yahoo and MSN, only require one account. Oh, for the day when you only need one account on one system to chat with all others on iChat, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Skype, etc.
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Peace said:
THAT day will never come.
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on the contrary, that day will definitely come. remember the early days of consumer-oriented internet? when people used services like AOL or Prodigy, and there was little-to-no inter-communication possible? now you can e-mail from any domain to any other domain seemlessly.

there will eventually be total interoperability of iChat, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Skype, etc., where all you'll need is an account with one of them and then be able to communicate with others. if we see true integration in the iPhone as a pioneer and then later devices in the future, we might be able to call iChat, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Skype, from Verizon, Cingular, T-Mobile, etc. (just U.S. based service providers as examples, but you get the idea).
 
Does the presence of this report mean that one of the developers to whom this build was seeded has violated the confidentiality agreement with Apple?

If so, isn't that a bit slimy?
 
dAlen said:
...and kind of surprised people dont use skype in the states.
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Besides all the benefits you get from Skype, it requires you to create a new account on the Skype system (and your desired account name may already have been taken) and then you can only chat with other Skype users. Perhaps that would be a reason to be resistent. I'm still gonna continue to push the ideal one-account-for-all-systems dream!
 
Rychiar said:
AOL liek invented the instant messenger. AIM was around far longer than any of the others and has the biggest user base. I remember when MSN came out years later. I could log on with my hotmail email to get on but why would I. I don't see why anyone ever started usin it. It's liek gmail and myspace IM, i dunno why anyone would start using them. Maybe its cus microsoft forcefeeds ther products.... btw ichat does suck next to adium but i get disonnected alot on adium. I wish we'd get a new true AIM, that was the best, i miss the share folder
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Around here (canada) People got a Hotmail account as their first Email account, then added contacts, then realized the can talk to those same contacts through chat and now are leery of changing from it, especially since they can use msn even on a mac. AOL never really took off here so Hotmail was their first foray into free web service.
 
Leopard is starting to look very, very cool.

My dream and hope is that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Apple is only showing as much as they have to so they may get bug reports and to give developers the ability to make sure their programs are optimized for Leopard.

But I hope Jobs is going to knock the world on the floor with Leopard. Make 10.5 as big of a leap as OS X was to begin with.

Fingers crossed...and very excited...
 
hawken1 said:
perhaps Apple should think about solving compability issues between panther and tiger in ichat before taking it further...

After my girlfriend installed tiger the audiochat stopped working. now it works again since I moved up to Tiger...

stuff like that really sucks... When they release applications without proper testing.
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So that's why?? I've wondered why audiochats with certain people didn't work for a long time. You just solved my mystery. :D

Rychiar said:
AOL liek invented the instant messenger. AIM was around far longer than any of the others and has the biggest user base. I remember when MSN came out years later. I could log on with my hotmail email to get on but why would I. I don't see why anyone ever started usin it. It's liek gmail and myspace IM, i dunno why anyone would start using them. Maybe its cus microsoft forcefeeds ther products.... btw ichat does suck next to adium but i get disonnected alot on adium. I wish we'd get a new true AIM, that was the best, i miss the share folder
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I think pow-wow, and maybe icq, was before aim..
 
my thoughts

I dont think Apple will ever make iChat a killer app. No revenue in it. Another thing that kills me is it only gets updated when a new OS version is released. Apple will never be able to charge for iChat simply no one would pay. Also video between iChat a/v and Aim on windows is still dicey... has been since the beginning.

It blows my mind that in 2006 video conferencing still isnt mainstream.
 
BWhaler said:
Leopard is starting to look very, very cool.

My dream and hope is that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Apple is only showing as much as they have to so they may get bug reports and to give developers the ability to make sure their programs are optimized for Leopard.

But I hope Jobs is going to knock the world on the floor with Leopard. Make 10.5 as big of a leap as OS X was to begin with.

Fingers crossed...and very excited...
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I too hope Steve shows us something amazing. I bet the hidden feature(s) will be a unified interface.
 
Auto Accepting File Transfers

phpwzrd said:
The flaw I find most fascinating with iChat is the inability to connect to multiple accounts at once (AIM, MSN, Yahoo, etc). Adium can do this no problem! When will iChat?
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Most frustrating for me, is that I have to accept every file transfer - making file transfers impossile if not sittign behind my Mac.

My PC-using friends can set their IMs up that will allow designated addresses to send files in some auto accept mode.

Neat.
 
Now, if I connect my phone to my mac via bluetooth, will iChat act as an answering machine and let me screen cellphone calls on my mac? I can see this stuff going farrrr. Where can I get my iPhone?
 
How long before somebody creates a website of "funny iChat answering machine greetings" with a list of buddy names to contact (and hope you get their greeting message, not them).

And then how long until advertisers figure out that getting a funny ad onto that list will give them free publicity?

And then how long until somebody develops a system to solve that problem -- a way to automatically weed out the ads from the personal greetings that are worth watching?
 
Poff said:
I think pow-wow, and maybe icq, was before aim..
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ICQ, for sure, was before AIM. It debuted in Nov 96 and AIM came out May 97. That is why AOL bought ICQ (for the sweet sum of $407 million): they were concerned about the user base ICQ was building.
 
Beligerent said:
I dont think Apple will ever make iChat a killer app. No revenue in it. Another thing that kills me is it only gets updated when a new OS version is released. Apple will never be able to charge for iChat simply no one would pay. Also video between iChat a/v and Aim on windows is still dicey... has been since the beginning.
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There's no revenue behind being able to search your computer quickly, or automate tasks quickly, or view all your program windows at once, or perform basic math, or look up ski conditions, but together it makes up OS X, which is what is responsible for most of apple's revenue.

and no, apple will never charge for it, unless they hook additional features into it with .mac.
 
dejo said:
ICQ, for sure, was before AIM. It debuted in Nov 96 and AIM came out May 97. That is why AOL bought ICQ (for the sweet sum of $407 million): they were concerned about the user base ICQ was building.
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Cool. After doing some searching, I found out pow-wow was even earlier. -95. Never really caught on, even though it had great features for the time. buddies, group chats, bulletin board, file transfer, speech synthesizer (!!), instant messaging, voice-over-IP (!!), a shared whiteboard for drawing and so forth.

I mean, that's pretty much Skype++ in 1995.
 
I just want to know how I connect my rotary phone to my machine to get this cool new feature?
 
MSN Support

Josias said:
Reversed here. I know one person on AIM...:D
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I think MSN is more popular abroad (Europe, etc.) While I don't have numbers, my own experiences lead me to believe AIM is definitely the most prevalent service in the U.S.
 
Peace said:
THAT day will never come.
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But WHAT a day that will be.

AdiumX 1.0b at least lets you paste pics in, like iChat does, so that's a major step forward.

And, of course, I'd like a nice "proxy" sort of service where it doesn't matter what client THEY are using, it translates them to whatever client YOUR using. I mean, the content is the same, just the language is different, so why not have mark@hotmail.com!VIA_AIM or some goofball thing, so i can talk to MSN folks from iChat.

I have no idea what I'm talking about. Maybe I'll just code one and be done with it.

Edit: Jabber does this stuff, doesn't it.
 
stephenmckeague said:
ARGH!!! Stupid Americans...
"LOLZ!!!111oneoneeleven but leik no1 uses MSN"
HOW MANY MORE TIMES??? MSN is (albeit unfortunately) VERY popular in Europe!!!
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ARGH!!! Stupid Non-Americans...
"LOLZ!!!111oneoneeleven but leik no1 uses AIM"
HOW MANY MORE TIMES??? AIM is (albeit unfortunately) VERY popular in America!!!
 
My Wish...

I just wish Apple would open up their apps to other services. For instance, the only search engine in Safari is Google. Why not let me choose the search provider like in Firefox, Opera, IE7? iChat is only AIM. Why not let me choose like in Adium?
 
I truly do wish that ichat would incorporate all of the major messaging services. There are a great many independent chat clients which support yahoo, AOL, MSN, jabber, and others. It is high time that able did this to with its ichat. I looks far better than MSN or AOL IM in functionality but its compatability stinks. I think that compatibility ought to be a higher concern than features at this point. This feature is cool but its usefulness pales in comparison to the need to provide support for all chat services.
 
JARS said:
I truly do wish that ichat would incorporate all of the major messaging services. There are a great many independent chat clients which support yahoo, AOL, MSN, jabber, and others.
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Yes, but it needs to do it without requiring accounts on each of those services...
 
mainstreetmark said:
Edit: Jabber does this stuff, doesn't it.
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Thats right jabber lets ichat chat to anyone on any network (text only) I have it set up right now. I use Google talk as a jabber account and the gateway services on a different jabber server let me talk to both my msn and aim mates.

I also have the added benefit of being able to use Gmails web based chat client to talk to the very same people, while I'm at work.

Instructions here
 
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