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Well I will most certainly be getting it but will wait a while to see what bugs there are before installing. Similarly Pro Tools will take ages to be compatible, Digidesign seem to be very slow at qualifying new OS releases.:confused:
 
More New Features In Leopard Attract Me Even More Than Did Tiger From Panther

I love it. Will definitely be pre-buying it for day one and be at the store too. OR Buying a new Mac with it inside. I'll have to come back to expand this post later. Top of page 2.
 
This next version is a good update to Mac OS X: No bad surprises, but no fundamental changes either. Apart from the tiring, but tolerable, bugs, with 8 months until the official release, this beta did not disappoint. The few examples shown in this article illustrate the desire and energy of Apple for providing a complete and packaged computer environment for the user. An attractive way not only thanks to the hardware, which has a limited life, but also thanks to a complete and agreeable OS and software suite. We will be delving in to the deeper parts of this system in the weeks and months to come.

Take that and apply it to any of the previous versions of OS X. the OS as we are seeing it for now is simply another minor upgrade in the evolutionary process of OS X. I stress for now because what we've seen so far does NOT warrant a banner proclaiming Vista 2.0. Is there still a gap between the two OS's? Sure. Not nearly as wide of one as there was prior to Vista which has yet to ship and which will take a couple SP's to stabilize has the foundation there.
I hope that what we've seen is only the tip of the iceberg and the real preview will come in January. I hope.
 
The HardMac screenshots revealed a couple of unannounced features that, while pretty basic, will make life much easier and more pleasant. While I await the "big name" features like Time Machine and Spaces, the following will be much welcomed as well:

1. Updated Find function in Safari inline with the Mozilla browsers that will find as you type, count and highlight each instance of the word or phrase on the page, and allow you to move between then easily rather than having to open the existing Find dialogue each time.

2. Renaming files, by default, will only select the file name and won't include the extension so that manual renaming can be performed faster.

Beyond this my most anticipated features are the Mail Notes and To-Do function. If a lot of applications take advantage of the To-Do system services then it'll be a fabulous function.

Abstract said:
I don't understand the need to make a widget out of a webpage being shown in Safari. Not at all.

Makes sense if you have a web site with information that want to check regularly but where no widget currently exists. The main reason why I don't tend to use Dashboard that much at the moment is that on my old Ti PowerBook it takes so damned long to open and update so that opening the web page itself (even if the browser wasn't even running) is usually quicker. With a new MacBook Pro next month I'm hoping that will change and therefore this feature, for me, will be officially useful come next year. I can think of a few web sites that I visit to check stuff that would benefit from this.
 
Kelmon said:
1. Updated Find function in Safari inline with the Mozilla browsers that will find as you type, count and highlight each instance of the word or phrase on the page, and allow you to move between then easily rather than having to open the existing Find dialogue each time.

Once you have already found one item with command + F then Command + G will cycle through the other results.

However i do like the new find feature, found apple's choice of highlight colours a little too faint for me.

I currently use Synk to do my backups, great program by the way, but i really like the look of Time Machine, anyone think the graphic should involve a delorean with burning tyre marks?

Spaces, i dunno i have used Virtue and didnt get along with it to well. Where spaces trumps Virtue is with te Expose like feature.

I will be pre-ordering it just like i did with Tiger.

If there are more "Top Secret" features (they still have 7-9 months) then that will be the icing on the cake.
 
I hope Apple doesn't release a Vista style public beta or CTP this time unlike when they released the Mac OS X Public beta. These would be fine for say QuickTime.
 
aafuss1 said:
I hope Apple doesn't release a Vista style public beta or CTP this time unlike when they released the Mac OS X Public beta. These would be fine for say QuickTime.

The change from OS9 -> OSX was massive undertaking. With the change from Tiger to Leopard the underpinnings do not change too much so there wont be a public Beta. There wasnt any public betas for Panther or Tiger. There will be lots of beta going out to the developers and people who are on the developer list (paid up member not the free account).
 
Kelmon said:
1. Updated Find function in Safari inline with the Mozilla browsers that will find as you type, count and highlight each instance of the word or phrase on the page, and allow you to move between then easily rather than having to open the existing Find dialogue each time.

xUKHCx said:
Once you have already found one item with command + F then Command + G will cycle through the other results.

xUKHCx, I think you're missing the point. Cmd+F to bring up a separate window in which you must type *then* find is inherently broken. Cmd+F "find as you type" is the way to do things correctly. It allows the user to imediately correct spelling mistakes, and to type only what she needs - no extra keystrokes. Highlighting every match at once is also a benefit to the user - he can instantly see how many hits there are on a page, rather than type Cmd+G repeatedly until he cycles to the top. This difference in Find is one of the reasons that I often pull up Firefox instead of Safari (the other being that Gmail still behaves better in Firefox).
 
Plymouthbreezer said:
No support? Tiger didn't COME with Classic, but it was supported. Not the case?

I like the new features. Looks like a substantial update as far as smaller tweaks go.

Anyone try running a Dev Build on a G3 or slower G4 yet??

There is no Classic in System Preferences.

I booted it up on a G3 by swapping out the hard disk, but it crashed a lot.

I installed Leopard on a 466 MHz G4 with 1 GB of RAM and a GeForce FX5500. It ran as smoothly as Tiger does.
 
Does anyone think the same "leak" that happened with the Tiger developer builds will happen with the Leopard dev builds?

I'm wondering if the Apple lawsuits made people nervous about it?
 
playaj82 said:
Does anyone think the same "leak" that happened with the Tiger developer builds will happen with the Leopard dev builds?

I'm wondering if the Apple lawsuits made people nervous about it?


Apparently this already has happened, search google new for it, many an article about. Cant verify it for myself as i havent downloaded it.
 
ReanimationLP said:
Classic got neutered with Leopard. There is NO Classic in Leopard.

At ALL.

I hadn't heard this, is it true? What's your source?

ReanimationLP said:
There is no Classic in System Preferences.

Did you have a 9.2 system installed on that computer?
 
xUKHCx said:
Apparently this already has happened, search google new for it, many an article about. Cant verify it for myself as i havent downloaded it.
Leopard looks fairly missable anyway. Tiger was cool, but the last time I was really excited about an increment was 10.3. I was at the head of the queue for the leaked betas of that one...

OK, yes, it was because Jag was still fairly fundamentally flawed [networking. Ugh.] - yet it seems all Apple are doing now, is tacking on borrowed features. I don't use expose, I don't use spotlight [due to it having broken far too often to be reliable], I don't use dashboard, and I won't use any of the silly new Leopard stuff. Especially the inane mail notes thing... and HTML? Sweet screaming baby Jesus!

The fundamentals need to be looked at again. OS X is becoming bloated beyond belief.
 
milo said:
I hadn't heard this, is it true? What's your source?



Did you have a 9.2 system installed on that computer?
I seem to recall when the intel transition was announced and Leopard was first discussed, it was confirmed that Leopard would finally see the ending of classic support.

It isn't on the Install disc for the developer preview, but neither is iLife and a lot of other bundled apps which usually come on disc 2.
 
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