Leopard then what?

mad jew

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Leopard has only just been announced, the features are still under wraps and it's remains quite a long way off. I'd say it's a bit too early to tell what's going to happen afterwards.

However, we can postulate that since Leopard will have to be quite different to Tiger so that it'll run smoothly on x86 machines, that the release after Leopard will not be anything too radical - still OSX at least. :)
 

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It has been prophesied that the world will end in 2012, so... from another dimension Steve will introduce Mac OS 0, code name Apocalypse. As usual it will blow windows are of the water, or in this case out of existence. Enjoy... ;)
 

Chaszmyr

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jlewis2k1 said:
So yeah Im curious what coming after leopard? will they go to 10.6 or begin developing 11?
I'm sure they're already in the beginning stages of developing OSXI , but Steve Jobs recently made a comment that implied that it was still several years away.
 

Panoctopi

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Chaszmyr said:
I'm sure they're already in the beginning stages of developing OSXI , but Steve Jobs recently made a comment that implied that it was still several years away.
Do you mean he implied that Leopard was several years away or has he actually commented on the forthcoming OS XI?
 

Chaszmyr

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Panoctopi said:
Do you mean he implied that Leopard was several years away or has he actually commented on the forthcoming OS XI?
Leopard is only a year away, but he made some comment to the effect of OSX being the foundation they would be using for years yet to come, which I think was during the keynote when he announced Leopard.
 

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Joy of Tech had a joke a while back calling it "Mac OS X - KITTY CAT" or something like that :D *

How about 'Lynx'? Er, actually there's a browser called Lynx, and then there's the old Atari handheld ...





* Actually I originally typed in a 5 letter word for cat that starts with P and ends with Y but the filter caught it! Hmm...
 

Panoctopi

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Chaszmyr said:
Leopard is only a year away, but he made some comment to the effect of OSX being the foundation they would be using for years yet to come, which I think was during the keynote when he announced Leopard.
I remember that, I see what you mean now. From this perspective, it's actually really exciting to think what Apple might come up with given this much time to develop it...
 

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mad jew said:
Leopard has only just been announced, the features are still under wraps and it's remains quite a long way off. I'd say it's a bit too early to tell what's going to happen afterwards.

However, we can postulate that since Leopard will have to be quite different to Tiger so that it'll run smoothly on x86 machines, that the release after Leopard will not be anything too radical - still OSX at least. :)
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Steve Jobs state that OSX has been living a dual life? The X86 version surely must be quite developed and thus not an impediment to further development of novel features.
 

mad jew

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Sedulous said:
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Steve Jobs state that OSX has been living a dual life? The X86 version surely must be quite developed and thus not an impediment to further development of novel features.

Sure, OSX has been leading a double life, but only one (PPC) has been used in the real world, the other has merely been in secret Apple labs. It's this real-world use that has helped system developers create what we use today. I don't doubt that the Intel version of Tiger is very similar to our PPC version, but nevertheless, there will obviously be some differences that won't pop up until real-world use gets the chance to uncover them.
 

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mad jew said:
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However, we can postulate that since Leopard will have to be quite different to Tiger so that it'll run smoothly on x86 machines, that the release after Leopard will not be anything too radical - still OSX at least. :)
This does not scan at all. MacOS X has run on Intel hardware since it was called OpenSTEP. Intel processors are novel to the Mac community, but they are not to the people who developed MacOS X. The first shipping Intel-based Macs will run Tiger, not Leopard. Leopard is not due to hit the shelves for about six months after the first Intel-based Macs go on sale.
 

dsharits

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If you remember, Steve said in the keynote that when Apple made the transition from OS 9 to OS X, it set them up for the next 20 years.
 

coconn06

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mad jew said:
Sure, OSX has been leading a double life, but only one (PPC) has been used in the real world, the other has merely been in secret Apple labs. It's this real-world use that has helped system developers create what we use today. I don't doubt that the Intel version of Tiger is very similar to our PPC version, but nevertheless, there will obviously be some differences that won't pop up until real-world use gets the chance to uncover them.
I don't see why the x86 version would be any different. Any of the features/bug fixes/etc. that were added to the PPC version could be simultaneously added to the x86 version. I'm assuming that's what was done all along.

Unless you're only talking about bugs which generally aren't revealed until thousands or millions of people get their hands on the software; in which case I agree with you.
 

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jlewis2k1 said:
So yeah Im curious what coming after leopard? will they go to 10.6 or begin developing 11?

Jobs has been talking up 20 years with OS X. So I think at minimum we are going to have SO X with us for at least until 2010. Personally I want to see:

10.5 Leopard (1st quarter 2007)
10.6 Ocelot (3rd-4th quarter 2008)
10.7 Lion (1st quarter 2010
10.8 Lynx (2012
10.9 SaberTooth (2015)

Keeping in mind that all of this was utilizing the PIDOOMA Model :D :p
 

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SiliconAddict said:
Jobs has been talking up 20 years with OS X. So I think at minimum we are going to be at OS 10.8 Personally I want to see:

10.6 Ocelot
10.7 Lion
10.8 Lynx
10.9 SaberTooth
I've got to agree on the SaberTooth. That should be the pinnacle of OS X. The only problem is that it's extinct........
 

SiliconAddict

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dsharits said:
I've got to agree on the SaberTooth. That should be the pinnacle of OS X. The only problem is that it's extinct........
But that's the beauty of 10.9. It’s going to be extinct with OS 11. :D

I still want OS 11 to be called:


Mac OS 11: "How's that Vista thing working out?"
:D
 

savar

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mad jew said:
Sure, OSX has been leading a double life, but only one (PPC) has been used in the real world, the other has merely been in secret Apple labs. It's this real-world use that has helped system developers create what we use today. I don't doubt that the Intel version of Tiger is very similar to our PPC version, but nevertheless, there will obviously be some differences that won't pop up until real-world use gets the chance to uncover them.
I'm not sure what you mean...the code was written from the very beginning to be ultra-compatible. All of these kinks and quirks have been ironed out as they've come up by the team that maintained the x86 builds.
 

mad jew

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Okay. I could be wrong but my understanding of OS development is that early builds are given to Apple's own developers exclusively. Once the thing reaches a certain stage, it gets released to a larger group of developers in the real world, including developers of other apps to ensure compatibility. This only happened at the WWDC a month or so ago. I haven't heard too much back from these developers as to how well Tiger is running on the Developer machines, but judging by how much 10.4 was criticised at release for its bugginess, I'd say the x86 version would be the same.

Remember, the OS is essentially the thing that relates the hardware to the software (general, miscellaneous apps) and one major piece of the hardware has been significantly changed. It's one thing to get a piece of code working properly in the lab but it's the real world where some of the quirks must be realised, and subsequently suppressed or overcome. That is why I think that the first few Intel Macs will almost certainly show some problems.

Oh yeah, and I stand corrected about the Leopard comment. MisterMe is right in saying the first of the Intels will run Tiger, not Leopard. :eek:
 

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dsharits said:
I've got to agree on the SaberTooth. That should be the pinnacle of OS X. The only problem is that it's extinct........
How about "Tabby"?

Is the premise of the question that the Intel switch causes a move to XI? I don't see any reason that the tens don't continue - there's some more milage in that roman numeral logo.
 

xsedrinam

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SiliconAddict said:
But that's the beauty of 10.9. It’s going to be extinct with OS 11. :D

I still want OS 11 to be called:


Mac OS 11: "How's that Vista thing working out?"
:D
Ya, the diehard Vistalites deserve no better. Or maybe, "Hasta la Vista" or "Puta de Vista":cool:
X
 

XNine

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Here are my name ideas

10.6 - Panthro
10.7 - Cheetara
10.8 - Lion-O
10.9 - Snarf
11.0 - Mum-Ra
Ah, the Thundercats. I loved them as a child. Cheetara was hot. You know she was the "shared" member fo the group.

I'm hoping OS 11 is only a few years away at most. The only thing I like about Vista, that's actualyl semi-original, is the GLASS GUI. Pretty cool lookin, everything else is crap.
 
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