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Leopard To Include iChat-To-Phone? Other Leopard Info?
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Platform said:True, they may be great features, but what is going to make people really WANT Leopard, like Spotlight and Dashboard was for Tiger
Hey, some of us are still on Panther as Tiger didn't have much appeal!
Given that Tiger, like Jaguar, was a 'technology update', I'd expect Leopard, like Panther, to make more use of new features introduced in Tiger. So, I'd expect much greater use to be made of Spotlight, Core Image, Core Video, Core Data perhaps.
My personal preference for the theme would be to use the standard title bars as they are since Panther for all applications. This solid very light grey is much less distracting than the darker heavier grey from iTunes. If they want to continue with different themes they should at least reduce it to only two (the standard one and the iTunes one), which have a consisten look except for the color. Right now there are too many variations.
whooleytoo said:
Im also hoping that Apple starts to use all the cool technologies that they made available in Tiger... I was personally very unimpressed that all Apple could do with core Image in Tiger that the end user clearly saw was the dasboard ripple effect... weeee
the enhancements to iChat are welcome but for God sake how about making it cross platform compatible. AIM to iChat video is sketchy at best. Its 2006 and still no good cross platform video chat options exist. Skype is literally on the brink of offering Skype video for Mac but no word yet. The new yahoo still doesnt support voice. Whats the problem?
The thing is, virtualization makes me fear a little bit that some apps will never ever get ported or that some developers stop updating their Mac versions of some apps just. Because they know that the people who really need those few apps will buy windows if they depend on it. I would love to see virtualization as an optional add on for Leopard but I don't think I like the idea of seeing it as a standard feature.Evangelion said:
Goldfinger said:
Well, in that case consumers will see Linux with working virtualization and Windows with working virtualization. And then they would ask "Why can't OS X do that?". What would your answer be?
No, virtualization would not replace native apps. Those Windows-apps would still be running on Windows, they could not take advantage of OS X's advanced features. Native apps would always win over apps running in a virtualized OS.
treblah said:It is still early. We didn't know anything about Dashboard until a few days (maybe a week) before WWDC when the Konfabulator guys spilled the beans.
And my guess is that full hardware virtualization is the feature that is going to sell Leopard to everyone. Which is about 10 times more exciting than Spotlight or Dashboard.
No, full hardware virtualization will not be the feature that sells Leopard to everyone. Don't forget that most of Apple's user base is still PPC. Any virtualization feature would only apply to Intel Macs.
They will need to put something in there for all the (many) PPC users out there that may be willing to spend ~$129 on an upgrade but are not planning on buying a new computer any time soon. If the key selling point requires new hardware, it isn't going to facilitate many OS software upgrades...
I haven't done skype, or anything similar yet, even though it would probably be pretty helpful to me. I think I'm a fanboy in that I usually wait for Apple to come out with something, then use it all the time. Is it because I'm a sheep? Or is it because they make it better? Discuss
treblah said:It is still early. We didn't know anything about Dashboard until a few days (maybe a week) before WWDC when the Konfabulator guys spilled the beans.
And my guess is that full hardware virtualization is the feature that is going to sell Leopard to everyone. Which is about 10 times more exciting than Spotlight or Dashboard.
Oh yeah, I believe Leopard will have some kick ass features
m-dogg said:
This is my concern. I'm hoping Leopard will not be all about Intel....but I fear it may be, and us PPC users will not be able to take advantage of half the cool stuff that Leopard will offer...
Windows Ready like Classic OS9
I heard 10.5 is going to be "windows ready" meaning windows is going to boot similar to OS 9 classic. No more changing startup disk to run windows. No more boot camp???
= )
I heard 10.5 is going to be "windows ready" meaning windows is going to boot similar to OS 9 classic. No more changing startup disk to run windows. No more boot camp???
= )
Some_Big_Spoon said:I haven't done skype, or anything similar yet, even though it would probably be pretty helpful to me. I think I'm a fanboy in that I usually wait for Apple to come out with something, then use it all the time. Is it because I'm a sheep? Or is it because they make it better? Discuss
i too have eagerly been awaiting a solid cross-platform solution.
skype has been 'on the verge' of realasing an update for mac to support built-in isight and video for the last year. it's driving me to the brink of switching, yet no other free voip solution is as appealing as skype. moreover, skype's phone features are top notch.
i chat is amazing between ichat users, but anything cross platform is choppy at best. amsn is fun for the odd video chat, but not a reliable solution. maybe the new office suite will have a universal MSN LIVE...?
i recall grumblings on the skype forums that perhaps the delay in skype releasing new, universal, built-in isight compatible video was that they were working with apple, and skype fans would only see the new mac skype video in the next os...
VoIP and iChat discovered in JANUARY!
Hey! I pointed out the iChat-VoIP connection back in January. See this post:
http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/voiceoverip/topic3888.html
You can try it yourself in the current software. It is still grayed out with the same message.
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Hey! I pointed out the iChat-VoIP connection back in January. See this post:
http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/voiceoverip/topic3888.html
You can try it yourself in the current software. It is still grayed out with the same message.
CD
i think apple will include a add-on or a built in isight in the next ipod. since all the new macs (not the mini yet) have built in cameras it seems obvious that ichat is going to be a focus for the next os. though it does seem impraticle to have a ipod that you have to be near a hotspot to fully work. maybe after iphone? or maybe this will be the first step towards iphone
I'm looking forward to some new apple technology. When I first started looking at macs, I saw the OS X tiger tutorial on apple's website and some of the features just blew my mind (spotlight, dashboard, the smoothness of the os) and ever since then i've loved it. I can't wait to see what leopard has in store for us.
markkk! said:
yes, i completely agree. they should focus on customization. 3rd party skins are lame, if apple came out with a way to change the look and color of some of the OS's elements, that would be a big plus. also something windows has always had, i'm not sure why apple has waited so long.