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Leopard Vs. Vista
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by the looks of the specs, it won't run on some brand new computers!
Leopard vs Vista? Is that even a question? You know the right answer, don't get us to tell you.
True, true. I guess I was being overly generous. I'm still awed by the speed that my brother's brand new Macbook boots Tiger, compared to my G3 iBook.
Seriously...a few seconds..it's crazy. The fact that apple optimises their releases rather than relying on new technology to pick up the slack for sloppy coding is more than enough.
To be honest Vista is not worth it. I've used it a good bit on my PC and yes I have to admit it runs smoothly and fast. And it's gotten better looking than XP but it's just a tad tacky. It's copied OS X and gone overboard with the graphics. And i'm only new to Macs, and to be honest Macs really are the better option. Out of the box you pretty much have everything you need that a basic user would need. Yes Vista has IE and OE and Media but thats just not enough when your spending over 300 or more on the OS. I certainly wont be getting it. I'll stick with XP for any of the stuff I need to do on Windoze.
1. REGISTRY
2. Security
3. DLL's
4. User Maintenance
5. Installing/Unistalling (blah!)
6. No easy drive mounting (love the .dmg)
Not to mention having to reformat every 6 months or so (oh the hated windows slow down).
So a big fat NO is in order. I hated using it and I won't go back because OS X has none of those problems.
2. Security
3. DLL's
4. User Maintenance
5. Installing/Unistalling (blah!)
6. No easy drive mounting (love the .dmg)
Not to mention having to reformat every 6 months or so (oh the hated windows slow down).
So a big fat NO is in order. I hated using it and I won't go back because OS X has none of those problems.
Are you seriously asking this question in a Mac forum?
Personally I'm not going to say which is better. Microsoft has slowly been getting better over the years, except for the debacle that was ME. 98SE < 2kPro < XPPro, and I'm hopeful that Vista would be good to me too.
OSX and XP both suck. If it weren't for Apple taking over Emagic I'd probably still be using PCs.
To everybody above -- yeah Vista will cost more than Leopard, but Apples cost more than PCs. The only good point somebody made was that awful Windows slowdown which causes you to reformat every 9 months. Which doesn't take too long if you've partitioned and backed everything up correctly.
Personally I'm not going to say which is better. Microsoft has slowly been getting better over the years, except for the debacle that was ME. 98SE < 2kPro < XPPro, and I'm hopeful that Vista would be good to me too.
OSX and XP both suck. If it weren't for Apple taking over Emagic I'd probably still be using PCs.
To everybody above -- yeah Vista will cost more than Leopard, but Apples cost more than PCs. The only good point somebody made was that awful Windows slowdown which causes you to reformat every 9 months. Which doesn't take too long if you've partitioned and backed everything up correctly.
-BSD Unix Core
-core Animation, Audio, Image, video
-xCode with interface builder
-32/64 bits one OS
-Network Location
-Exposé
-Spotlight
-AppleScript, Cron, Automator
-Print to PDF
-iLife( iPhoto especially )
-Driver Install, only to add features
-DLL mess
-Time Machine
-Spaces
-core Animation, Audio, Image, video
-xCode with interface builder
-32/64 bits one OS
-Network Location
-Exposé
-Spotlight
-AppleScript, Cron, Automator
-Print to PDF
-iLife( iPhoto especially )
-Driver Install, only to add features
-DLL mess
-Time Machine
-Spaces
There's also that clean feeling you get because you're supporting a company that has a mission that includes aesthetics, innovation, and quality experience over simply profiting as efficienty and ruthlessly as possible.
If I had the inclination, I could go back a short while and find your similar question, and same format style on a previous post and under a different name. Stirring the pot here lad?
FTW, I have never, in all my years of using Windows, experienced this mystical slow down.
Well MS has not figured that out its still in office 2004 for mac......the formatting palette.
windows vista is SO expensive. http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6130136.html
clearlly microsoft is desprate for money. they are losing money in xbox sales, the mp3 market isn't much either, and their primary source of revenue is running dry (win xp).
dispite this, i gladly welcome their new operating system and i plan to use it on my old pcs.
clearlly microsoft is desprate for money. they are losing money in xbox sales, the mp3 market isn't much either, and their primary source of revenue is running dry (win xp).
dispite this, i gladly welcome their new operating system and i plan to use it on my old pcs.
Best reasons are the most simple ones;
1) Leopard will work out of the box, Vista won't.
2) Leopard will be beautiful, Vista will be a badly done copy.
3) Leopard will run my applications more stable than Vista.
Although, I have to give some respect to MS who has come up with a very clever and informative name:
V.iruses
I.nfections
S.pyware
T.rojans
A.dware
If you rarely installed/uninstalled programs then you would never notice a slow down. It really happens when so much junk gets written to the registry/system folders from installs that it really does slow Windows down. Its no myth.
To be fair, on point 1, Vista is having to contend with a much wider range of hardware support issues than OSX ever will. If you see the various projects to hack OSX, you begin to see the difficulties and man hours required to get OSes to run seemlessly on any hardware.
Still, that's the price MS wants to pay. Vista will still have features though we will probably never see in OSX, or Apple will eventually, silently add. Applications though, they just work going from Jaguar to Panther to Tiger to Leopard. You rarely see the same level of issues as the betas and RCs of Vista have shown up.
Writing this on a pc running Vista RC1, and there are some things which have improved greatly since XP, and others which have become worse. Some of the "new" *cough*Tiger*cough* features are nowhere near as good as the OS X equivalent. Vista's search is a joke compared to Spotlight, and there is a bad attempt to do something a bit like Exposé, but it's not really useful.
That being said Vista was able to find all the necessary drivers for my PC, very impressive considering the time it takes me to install all my drivers after reinstalling XP. There is also a nice feature that shows a small window with the program when you mouse-over in the task bar. It looks better than XP, but it's still "too much" somehow.
It's less intuitive, and to be honest it does not seem as if it's been built from the ground up. For instance the "Install new font"-feature still looks exactly like it did in win 95 (almost 3.11) - that thing hasn't changed in any version of Windows!
Of course the gamers will like DirectX 10...
I wont start comparing Vista to Leopard, as it doesn't even hold up to Tiger the way I see it.
I for one am looking forward to getting my Macbook Pro, so that I can get back on OS X.
That being said Vista was able to find all the necessary drivers for my PC, very impressive considering the time it takes me to install all my drivers after reinstalling XP. There is also a nice feature that shows a small window with the program when you mouse-over in the task bar. It looks better than XP, but it's still "too much" somehow.
It's less intuitive, and to be honest it does not seem as if it's been built from the ground up. For instance the "Install new font"-feature still looks exactly like it did in win 95 (almost 3.11) - that thing hasn't changed in any version of Windows!
Of course the gamers will like DirectX 10...
I wont start comparing Vista to Leopard, as it doesn't even hold up to Tiger the way I see it.
I for one am looking forward to getting my Macbook Pro, so that I can get back on OS X.
Amen. This is why I particularly don't care for what Microsoft has done to Windows. The PDC '03 preview was far, far, far better. It would have actually been a next generation OS (surpassing OS X in my opinion).
Ok, I've owned a Windows based PC for all my life, 3 years ago (when I entered college) I started working with Mac OSX and immediately thought:
Why the hell so many people still use Windows if someone has already made an OS like this?? (and it was 10.2 I guess)
I bought my first Mac only a week ago so I'm pretty sure I'm not biased to OSX or Windows since I know from experience the strengths and weaknesses of each OS. Anyway, all this to ask:
Don't you think that Mr.Paul here is kinda biased to Windows?
Being a Windows fan doesn't have to make you a bad and wrongful reviewer right?
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/macosx_leopard_preview.asp
Sounds like he got it all backwards, I hope the Leopard hidden features kick Vista's ass out of the face of the earth because although there are many Mac-Biased individuals (even in this forum) I'm just tired that Windows users
never admitting that Mac OSX is a better OS, starting from the core
And if he thinks Apple's advertisements and affirmed facts are lies, we should stop by www.microsuck.com and read about his favorite company strategic decisions over time.
Why the hell so many people still use Windows if someone has already made an OS like this?? (and it was 10.2 I guess)
I bought my first Mac only a week ago so I'm pretty sure I'm not biased to OSX or Windows since I know from experience the strengths and weaknesses of each OS. Anyway, all this to ask:
Don't you think that Mr.Paul here is kinda biased to Windows?
Being a Windows fan doesn't have to make you a bad and wrongful reviewer right?
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/macosx_leopard_preview.asp
Sounds like he got it all backwards, I hope the Leopard hidden features kick Vista's ass out of the face of the earth because although there are many Mac-Biased individuals (even in this forum) I'm just tired that Windows users
never admitting that Mac OSX is a better OS, starting from the core
And if he thinks Apple's advertisements and affirmed facts are lies, we should stop by www.microsuck.com and read about his favorite company strategic decisions over time.