iPod touch less than 700mb per movie?

whitedragon101

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I want to buy an ipod touch however it only stores 32gb video.

Is there any way to get the filesize below 700mb per movie? It seems strange that this is the smallest quoted size since a DivX film can be 700mb for 90mins and play great on a 19inch screen as opposed to a 3.5inch screen. I wonder if this 700mb file size is just to allow people to play the output via the ipod touch on bigger screens?

Does anyone know of any compression tools which can squeeze the file size down even farther.

thanks :)
 

DanielCalladine

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Hello,

I use VisualHub to reduce a 700mb file down to about 350mb which still looks good on my Touch.

You can also alter the files dimensions to better suit the Touch while you're at it.

Hope that helps.
 

kered22

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Another vote here for handbrake, it's the best way to get a good number of movies onto an iPod Touch (I have a 16GB 1st gen now, a 32GB second gen on the way).

Few guidlines...

First, be sure to rip the DVD to an internal hard drive, ripping direct from the DVD will be really slow.

Second, for the best size to quality ratio, encode the .mp4 movies at 200kbps in handbrake and turn on 2 pass encoding. I just leave the default setting by encoding at an average bitrate instead of constant, that's your choice though. You can see the pixelization if you bump them to full size on your Mac, but even then it's not horrible horrible. On the touch, you won't notice but if you're really looking for them, you'll see them.

Pirates 1, 2 and 3 (in sequential order) came out at 338.1MB, 355.8MB and 399.5MB. Transformers came out at 442.3MB, Batman Begins at 330.7MB. An episode of Heroes from season 1 comes out to 101 to 102 MB. Each of these movies has varying amounts of action and motion in them so that's going to affect the file size more than the actual film length but those are some good baseline numbers of what to expect.

16 and even 32GB seems small but if you encode your movies right, you'll be able to get plenty on. Unless it's impossible, always try to encode from a DVD source instead of an xvid or divx source, you'll get better quaity, smaller file size and the chapter markers will remain intact.

Enjoy. :)
 

crunchiespg

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Another vote here for handbrake, it's the best way to get a good number of movies onto an iPod Touch (I have a 16GB 1st gen now, a 32GB second gen on the way).

Few guidlines...

First, be sure to rip the DVD to an internal hard drive, ripping direct from the DVD will be really slow.

Second, for the best size to quality ratio, encode the .mp4 movies at 200kbps in handbrake and turn on 2 pass encoding. I just leave the default setting by encoding at an average bitrate instead of constant, that's your choice though. You can see the pixelization if you bump them to full size on your Mac, but even then it's not horrible horrible. On the touch, you won't notice but if you're really looking for them, you'll see them.

Pirates 1, 2 and 3 (in sequential order) came out at 338.1MB, 355.8MB and 399.5MB. Transformers came out at 442.3MB, Batman Begins at 330.7MB. An episode of Heroes from season 1 comes out to 101 to 102 MB. Each of these movies has varying amounts of action and motion in them so that's going to affect the file size more than the actual film length but those are some good baseline numbers of what to expect.

16 and even 32GB seems small but if you encode your movies right, you'll be able to get plenty on. Unless it's impossible, always try to encode from a DVD source instead of an xvid or divx source, you'll get better quaity, smaller file size and the chapter markers will remain intact.

Enjoy. :)
how do you rip the dvd to the hard drive and then use handbrake to convert it? are you sure that is quicker cos ripping it must take a while, and then converting it separately will add time.. i can do a movie straight from DVD in about 50mins...
 

orangeillini14

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I have ripped a few DVDs to my HDD before but never tried to put them on iPod. I am trying to open them in HandBrake now, but it says that they are not valid sources... any help?
 

kered22

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how do you rip the dvd to the hard drive and then use handbrake to convert it? are you sure that is quicker cos ripping it must take a while, and then converting it separately will add time.. i can do a movie straight from DVD in about 50mins...
Use Mactheripper or a similar program (there is one other one for OS X that I can't recall the name of), once that is done, open handbrake and choose the DVD you just ripped as the source, adjust your settings and let it go.

As for time from DVD to iPod playable, your mileage will vary. For me at least (since I work overnight) I like to do marathon conversions then get to bed. I wanted to get season 2 of heroes onto my iPod (since my new 32 Touch was coming), so I ripped the 4 discs in advance and setup handbrake yesterday morning. I had... all 4 discs of Heroes season 2 and all 6 discs of Harvey Birdman Attorney at Law queued up in handbrake and just let it go, took about 6 or 7 hours to encode everything I believe.

Ripping direct from disc is fine if it's just one or two movies but if it's multiple discs, I really don't want to have to keep switching discs out. I'm dating myself but that reminds me WAY too much of doing floppy disk installs on System 6/7 and having 14 floppies to swap in and out. LOL It's the economics of it all, plan it all out in advance given the time you have and stick to it, it'll work out. To each his own though. :)
 

Jelite

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I have ripped a few DVDs to my HDD before but never tried to put them on iPod. I am trying to open them in HandBrake now, but it says that they are not valid sources... any help?
Have you already converted them?, handbrake needs the original ts files to do its thing.
 

crunchiespg

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Use Mactheripper or a similar program (there is one other one for OS X that I can't recall the name of), once that is done, open handbrake and choose the DVD you just ripped as the source, adjust your settings and let it go.

As for time from DVD to iPod playable, your mileage will vary. For me at least (since I work overnight) I like to do marathon conversions then get to bed. I wanted to get season 2 of heroes onto my iPod (since my new 32 Touch was coming), so I ripped the 4 discs in advance and setup handbrake yesterday morning. I had... all 4 discs of Heroes season 2 and all 6 discs of Harvey Birdman Attorney at Law queued up in handbrake and just let it go, took about 6 or 7 hours to encode everything I believe.

Ripping direct from disc is fine if it's just one or two movies but if it's multiple discs, I really don't want to have to keep switching discs out. I'm dating myself but that reminds me WAY too much of doing floppy disk installs on System 6/7 and having 14 floppies to swap in and out. LOL It's the economics of it all, plan it all out in advance given the time you have and stick to it, it'll work out. To each his own though. :)
but your way doesnt seem any quicker, you will still have to put all the disks in one by one to rip them to the HDD, and then convert them. so why not just convert them right away??? how long does a movie take to first rip to the HDD then how long does it take for handbrake to convert it from the HDD? just going stright from DVD to hndbrake takes me 50 mins for a full movie..
 

kered22

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but your way doesnt seem any quicker, you will still have to put all the disks in one by one to rip them to the HDD, and then convert them. so why not just convert them right away??? how long does a movie take to first rip to the HDD then how long does it take for handbrake to convert it from the HDD? just going stright from DVD to hndbrake takes me 50 mins for a full movie..
It's simply a more economical way of doing it. As I said above, to each his own.
 

crunchiespg

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It's simply a more economical way of doing it. As I said above, to each his own.
thats what i am trying to work out. how is it more economical? you are adding an extra step to the process...

does ripping it first and then converting it take less than 50 minutes?
 

DoFoT9

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thats what i am trying to work out. how is it more economical? you are adding an extra step to the process...

does ripping it first and then converting it take less than 50 minutes?
ripping to your harddrive gives you an extra possibility to convert the video.

it is most necessary when ripping a learge colelction of TV shows.
E.G. i ripped every friends DVD i own onto my hard drive, i then set up about 30 episodes to covert overnight blaablaablaa. makes it MUCH easier than taking the dvd out every couple of hours...
 

crunchiespg

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ripping to your harddrive gives you an extra possibility to convert the video.

it is most necessary when ripping a learge colelction of TV shows.
E.G. i ripped every friends DVD i own onto my hard drive, i then set up about 30 episodes to covert overnight blaablaablaa. makes it MUCH easier than taking the dvd out every couple of hours...
but you have had to take the dvd's in and out when ripping them, so you could of just converted them there and then... so you havnt saved any work at all, you have added work...

i could see its worth it if ripping and then converting take a lot less than 50mins per movie, if not whats the point? so can one of you answer, how long does it take using ripping then converting method?
 

DoFoT9

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1. but you have had to take the dvd's in and out when ripping them, so you could of just converted them there and then... so you havnt saved any work at all, you have added work...

2. i could see its worth it if ripping and then converting take a lot less than 50mins per movie, if not whats the point? so can one of you answer, how long does it take using ripping then converting method?
1. no it wouldnt have saved any work. ripping the movies, at the rate im doing, takes about 1hr PER EPISODE. there are 4 episodes to a dvd, so that is 4 hours. ripping to my HD takes 15minutes. so in 4 hours i can have 16 DVD's ripped ready to go overnight. its more efficient for mass converting.

2. it takes EXACTLY the same time to convert... if you think about it your dvd player can read at about what.. anywhere from 5-15mbps depending opn where abouts its reading it from on the DVD. when converting using handbrake your looking at 2mbps if that..

so there is no difference..